GrandOrgue 0.2 Beta released for testing...

[Mathbob]

One of the icons at the top of the GrandOrgue screen is "memory." What does it remember?

Bob

[ggoode.sa]

Hi Bob, it sets the Memory Level (If you're using the latest GrandOrgue 0.2 Beta you can hover over the icon and it will say 'Memory Level'). GrandOrgue has 100 levels of memory - meaning that you can set your Divisional and General Pistons for memory level '1', then raise the memory level to '2' and set them completely differently, etc.

Hope that helps :-)
GrahamG

[Dorsetmike]

I've now got the Farfisa KB connected via a Midi/USB converter cable, have GO running with the Stiehr-Mockers set. the split KB runs the pedals and Great, but I don't seem top be able to operate any stops, except for "all off".

Midi ox is showing codes coming in for the settings I'm entering on the keyboard, I've tried mapping them to various midi yoke channels (taking the numbers from the Settings display in GO)

Midi ox display (ignoring timestamp column

IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA 2 CHAN . NOTE EVENT
9 .. 2 .....C0 ...... xx ......00 ...... 1 .... --- ... PC -- sound xx
9 .. 2 .....B0 .......7B ......00 ......1 ..... --- ... ALL NOTES OFF
9 .. 2 .....B0 .......7B ......00 ......1 ..... --- ... ALL NOTES OFF
9 .. 3 ..... B1 ...... 7B ......00 ...... 2 ... --- ... ALL NOTES OFF

IN port 9 is the USB audio, Ports 2 & 3 correspond to Midiyoke 1 & 2

I have tried interpreting CO in Midi ox as Ctrl, & ProgChg in the Mapping/Translation settings and redirecting to channel 5 or 6, tried discarding the B0 and B1 Note off signals.

No stops change except to deselect those I select with the mouse.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP

Or do I have to ditch the USB/Midi cable and get a 15way Dtype; come to think of it not sure if this machine even has a game port socket.

[ggoode.sa]

Hi Mike,
What MIDI channel have you configured Stop changes to in the Midi Settings screen in GreandOrgue? Once you are sending Stop change commands through on that channel you should simply have to right click on a Stop on the GrandOrgue console, click on the 'Listen for event' button and activate the button you're using for the Stop change... that should create the 'hook up' between your midi and GrandOrgue. Don't forget to save once all your stops are configured.

If I missunderstood what you are trying to do, please try asking your question again :-)

GrahamG

[Dorsetmike]

Even more fun today, I tried to run things on my other PC (Identical machine) but Midiox can't see the USB audio input at all, tried reinstalling midiox, the USB audio driver rebooted the PC all to no avail.

Reason for trying to swap PCs, I use one for Web and photography work, the other mainly for audio (most days it just streams last.fm) plus it sits in a corner a bit less accessible (and further from the heating radiator).

The keyboard generates control and programme change messages 3 buttons which select the "sound banks" and functions (K/B split, chord, vibrato, reverb, sustain etc) the sound bank and function are then selected using a numeric keypad.

Selecting a sound bank generates C0 (hex) plus the value entered on the keypad, immediately followed by B0 plus 7B "All notes off" then B1 7B.

Selecting a function performs action on the keyhoard, but only sends B0 7B and B1 7B

Think I may have sussed it, C0 is prog change for channel 1, so setting stop change for Cx on channel 1 selects a stop, I'm having to do Hexadecimal conversions for some of the codes, and it looks as though numbers are offset down 1, so to slect stop 48 I have to key in 047. A number of stops appear to have the same numbers, selecting 047 lights 3 stops!!

I've also figured how to send C1 prog change channel 2, by selecting one of the "accompaniment" sound banks, 30 selections in all

None of the other buttons (percussion, style/rythm etc) seem to have any effect on the midi output

So it looks like the channels are limited, but I can cope with 127 stops!! so far I haven't sorted the couplers or the numbered buttons over the keys and pedals.

Still some progress.

[Dorsetmike]

Still no joy with Midi ox seeing the USB input on the other PC, I've joined the Midi ox forum and posted a query there.

[ggoode.sa]

Hi Mike,
Could you give us a few more details as well... which USB MIDI cable is it? Does Windows 'see' the USB Audio (i.e. what is in the device manager in the Windows Control Panel?).

Hope it is sorted out soon,
GrahamG

[Dorsetmike]

The adapter cable is this one, power is derived from the USB port.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/LogiLink-Ada...6863256&sr=8-2

Appears in device manager on both PCs, parameters the same on both machines.

I've tried re-downloading Midi ox, also tried earlier version of midi ox. Compared the USB audio driver is the same on both machines. Tried different USB ports.

The Midi signals are transmitted in serial form, the channel numbers are part of the note on/off, control and prog change codes so in theory one could take the input direct from the USB port if there was a way of routing it through the PC to GO.

I have ordered another connector from Amazon to fit the 15 pin D type socket on the PC, see if that makes any difference!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIN-5-Keyboa...864489&sr=8-14

One thing I have gained from coming back to VPOs after a few months break is I now have a better understanding of midi signal coding, so could well now be able to sort the problems I was having before in playing the instrument from Finalé Notepad.

Back to the drawing board!!

[Dorsetmike]

Found some useful info on Midi file coding

Basic details, covers headers, track defining data, event commands and note numbers.

http://faydoc.tripod.com/formats/mid.htm

The Hexadecimal editor I'm using is a free download

http://www.hhdsoftware.com/Products/...itor-free.html

There are non free versions with more bells and whistles plus 24/7 support on the same site

Now where's me programmers hat?

Among the samples is there a stop sounding close to the following (opening bars of Gigout's Grande Choeur Dialogué -- anybody tempted to use it as a ring tone?)

[Dorsetmike]

Further to the USB/midi not working on one PC, it's not only with Midi Ox, I tried a few other Midi monitoring apps and they don't see it either. Device manager recognises it when I plug it in and drop-s it when I unplug it, so it's getting lost somewhere.

My idea of trying an alternative connector to the 15 pin D type socket fell flat on it's face, these PCs don't have one, I'd noticed an unused socket, however it turns out to be the 9 pin RS232 connector, foiled again!!!!!!

No reply to my post on the Midi Ox forum either.

[el_supremo]

Among the samples is there a stop sounding close to the following

There's a Trompette en Chamade 8' in the FBR Schantz sample set by Evensong Music. To use it with GrandOrgue you'd need the HW1 version.

Pete

[Dorsetmike]

Thanks for that Pete, I will investigate. Then get round to constructing my own selection of samples.

[Dorsetmike]

Drastic cure for the USB midi problem not being detected by the midi software, Format C: reinstall windoze and everything else.

Ain't electronics fun

[ggoode.sa]

Hi Mike,
That's the solution to rule all solutions! I've done it too many times to remember... but then I've been using Windows for more than 15 years :-)
GrahamG

[Dorsetmike]

I joined the Midi Ox forum and posted a query there, still not had a response after 6 days, so I posted a snotty message telling them how I felt about their "service".

Just had the new installation of Grande Orgue crash as soon as I finished loading the organ files.

Oh we do have fun