Hi Mike,
Yes, we've been working on the update for a while. As you can see, the Clairon 4' has been added to the Pedal and the Trompette 8 Bass and Disc are now one Stop on the G.O. in the Extended version.
Now got the stops controlled by note on/off, I'll try and write it up as a tutorial if wanted.
I'm working with Finalé Notepad but I suspect Notewrthy could use the same method.
Stops and couplers are controlled from 2 additional staffs on the score allocated to Midi channel 4, I have the Organ treble staff on channel 1 fed to positiv, 2 fed to great, and 3 to Pedal.
I've renumbered the stops and couplers to match natural note numbers from C0 (24) to A4 (81) had to leave out sharps and flats cos notation software doesn't seem to like a note and its sharp or flat in the same chord!
I've now tested it and it works, the Rameau harpsichord gavotte and variations I've been using to learn on (in addition to the motet I posted yesterday) I've recorded as a .wav using the grandorgue facility then converted to MP3 in Audacity, I've also saved to Midi.
One or two bass notes need changing, not quite the harmony I was after, some registration changes too. In the pic you may notice some untied notes in the bass the lack of a tie causes the stop illumination to blink as it's note is released, must redo the ties there.
I'll attach the midi, MP3 files and a screen shot of part of the score to this post, MIMF wont accept Finalé .mus files. nor Excel .xls so I'll attach those as .zip files The first zip is the Finalé .mus file, the second is the Excel list of stops.
Click the pic for larger view, the bottom two staffs control the stops and couplers.
Those fast notes at the beginning of the piece are fun! It is a great tune that shows off the organ sample set nicely too, so thanks for posting the mp3 and all the associated files.
I'm sure that others will want to try this, so if you do have time to write a tutorial on this please do :-)
GrahamG
It occurred to me that some might wonder why I'm working this way, main reason is I only took piano lessons for a couple of years nearly 70 years ago so my keyboard skills are somewhat lacking; I know where the notes are on the K/B, I can read music, so I'm working with scores "driving" GrandOrgue. I do have a couple of midi keyboards which I use to check out chords, not having perfect pitch I can't just hear a chord and say, that needs a D in the bass so I play a few notes until I find what sounds right (most of the time)
Another use for my keyboard is to check out registration, hold a note and click stops on screen on and off to compare the sounds of various combinations. A drawback of the main keyboard I have is lack of facilities for generating midi commands, to generate a Cx command requires 4 key strokes, one to select the sound bank and 3 on a numeric pad to define the command, which is a bit limiting to say the least and another reason to work from a score.
A further reason I can think of to play GrandOrgue from a score is the ability to try tweaks to registrations or harmonies without having access to a keyboard, maybe working on a laptop when travelling or laid up in bed.
I've been working with Finalé Notepad, what other composer/player applications are others out there using?
Graham, what are the chances of providing options for operating the push button triggers, currently restricted to Cx prog change on the same channel as its associated manual/pedal, ideal would be same as the options for stops and couplers. The only way I can generate Cx commands from a score is changing the instrument Only usually possible at the start of a piece. From the keyboard 4 key strokes per change! (OK the Farfisa K/B is not really an ideal instrument anyway for this sort of work)
Hi Mike,
I haven't looked at the code that controls that, so can't say whether or not it'll be a workable feature request. Off the top of my head I'm wondering if the General Pistons are controllable via NoteOn/Off on the Stops channel... I'll have to check that out tomorrow...
Just finished this one, John Stanley, Voluntary No 3 of Opus 5. starts off almost subdued, then comes alive. Basically hardly touched note wise just added the stop control staffs, made a couple of minor errors there, you may notice the ped to GO coupler operate a few times, need to sort that, but not at 00.45am! bed calls!!
Tried the St Augustines set yesterday, not overimpressed, definitely prfer the Stiehr Mockers. What others are around on the free/cheap side, if any, I did try Google, nowt cheap so far. I did try the "happy birthday" one last year when I was using My Organ
I've started to save the stop and coupler control staves separately when I find a combination I really like, then I can just copy/paste it in, should save quite a bit of time.
Nearly finished the tutorial I'm doing on stop control from a score, may be able to post it tomorrow, it includes a bit of an Excel sheet & some screen shots embedded in a word .doc.
Graham, will the Enigma sets play on GrandOrgue, think they are aimed at Hauptwerk, but not sure which version, downloading it now, looks like I'll be up for another half lour or more at the rate it's coming!
Hi Mike,
The Enigma is created for Hauptwerk and only comes in Hauptwerk format. You would need to check the license that it is released under before creating an .organ file for it.
Had an idea earlier (may have just been a brain fart though) while trying to decide when to get out of bed. Quite simple, so it may already be in use.
Not being a player, I wondered if another possible use for playing a score through GrandOrgue, could be employed when learning a piece, do you start by learning say the right hand part first, then the left, then put the 2 together and start on the pedals?
If so would it be useful at some stage to have GrandOrgue play the other staves to "accompany" your practice
Open the score "name" in Finalé, Noteworthy or whichever application you use, delete a staff completely and "save as" "namea", reopen original, delete another staff repeat "save as" "nameb", repeat for as many staves as you need.
"name" = the name of the score file, a,b, etc = identifier for deleted staff, could be s=swell, g = great, p = pedals or r= right hand, l= left hand .
Does this make sense? Is it likely to be of use? Don't tell me, you've been doing it for ages!
Tripped myself up a bit today, working on a piece in G minor having been working in A minor and C major; wondered why one of the stops was not operating, DUH G minor has 2 flats, so rather than change all the stop control "chords", I changed the note number in GrandOrgue down one.
And that after having to copy a whole 110 bar/measure stave by hand, cos I couldn't copy/paste from a C clef to a bass clef.
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