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    GrandOrgue 0.2 Beta released for testing...

    Hi Guys,

    GrandOrgue 0.2 Beta has been released for public testing. Please go to http://www.grahamg.110mb.com/GrandOrgueOverview.htm for further information. This release inlcuded binary versions for Windows, Puppy Linux, and Debian/Ubuntu Linux.

    Please help us in testing this software so that we can have a full release available soon.

    Have fun,
    GrahamG
    Johannesburg, South Africa

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    Spent the last hour playing with this new release and it works like a charm here. Congrats!
    I am still using the Windows version but need to switch to Linux when I have time.
    BTW, even if they are straightforward, we should document the new features: transpose, midi note offset, organ loading throught midi and information display on LCD.
    I am wondering how many persons are using GrandOrgue but recommend to all of them to switch to this new version.
    JLD

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    Hi JLD,
    Yes we need to create some more topics for the help file and maybe place some tutorial information on the web. If you have some spare time while at your computer could you type up some notes on the parts that you know?
    Glad that it's working like a charm! I've loaded it on my Windows XP 32-bit desktop and my Windows 7 one (which dual boots to Ubuntu and Puppy). I've spent more time using GrandOrgue in Puppy Linux than in Ubuntu, and the performance is excellent.
    GrahamG

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    I just installed v2 and it is working very well, even on this limited (512/512) computer. Bob

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    Hi!

    Don't know where you want the feedback, so I'll post it here also.


    • Successfully installed GrandOrgue on Ubuntu 9.04. No problem with your instructions!
    • Program starts ok and everything seems to be working nicely.
    • It's extremely sensitive to certain .wav files. For instance the jeux2 don't load. Gives me an error "Failed to load PedPrestant4/13-C2.wav-3000000". Checked the file and .organ xml and of course I can open it by running it through wine. A few other samplesets has the same problem but I've managed to load a few without any problem also.
    • With the ones that loaded some notes had audible clicks in them. Seemed to be related to the release. Running through wine gave none of theese problems.


    But at least it's good to see a version running directly in Linux! This is a good start. Thanks for the efforts!

    PS, the clicking is not related to xruns in jack...

    Kind regards

    Lars

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    Issue with loading of samples is fixed by the advice from another forum. Linux is of course case-sensitive. A rename to uppercase of PedPrestant4/13-c2.wav and likewise with PosNazard g#4 fixed jeux2!

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    Hi Lars,
    Glad you found the solution (Linux is Case Sensitive). I'll see if we can find a reason for the clicks being more pronounced in the Linux version (I can hear them in the Windows version). I have found that this is more due to the loops and release portion of the wav file, so it can be fixed in the sample...
    GrahamG

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    No audio ports in Jack.

    Hello Graham,

    In your notes you write:

    When you first run GrandOrgue you will be presented with the Audio/MIDI configuration screen. Select your MIDI interface and make sure that Jack is selected in the audio drop down. Click on OK. You are now ready to load your .organ file.

    I am trying to use Ubuntu 9.04.
    The .deb installed successfully and i get the audio/midi config screen.
    I started Jack first, and then launched GrandOrgue.
    I can tick the midi in from my Midisport 4X4, but in the dropdown box labeled sound output device nothing can be visualised.
    In Jack connection, for audio no readable clients/output ports appear; the writable clients/input are there.
    The output ports and input ports for alsa are there.

    When i start AEOLUS, everything works ok and i can play.

    I uninstalled GrandOrgue and reinstalled, but this did not help.

    Any idea where i should look?

    All the best.

    Erik.

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    Hi Erik,
    I also stated that Jack has to be running at 44100hz, could you check at what rate your jack setup is configured too? If Jack is running and not configured to 44.1khz then nothing will display in the GrandOrgue Sound output device dropdown.
    Hope this helps,
    GrahamG

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggoode.sa View Post
    Hi Erik,
    I also stated that Jack has to be running at 44100hz, could you check at what rate your jack setup is configured too? If Jack is running and not configured to 44.1khz then nothing will display in the GrandOrgue Sound output device dropdown.
    Hope this helps,
    GrahamG
    Thank you for the info.
    The sample rate was not set to 44100 hz; now it is.
    But still nothing appears in the Sound Output Device dropdown box.
    The same problem shows up both using Ubuntu and Puppy Linux.

    In Puppy Linux and Ubuntu i can play mp3's.
    (And the puppy barks loudly! :-) )

    Any other causes you can think of?

    Thanks in advance and all the best.

    Erik.

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    Hi Erik,
    I sent you a profile message. There are a couple of things that we can try, but let's do it off forum until we have a solution :-)
    GrahamG

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    Right, there a couple of new draft pages on my GrandOrgue site:
    Building GrandOrgue in Ubuntu 9.04 - http://www.grahamg.110mb.com/GrandOrgueUbuntuBuild.htm
    Adding Reverb in Windows - http://www.grahamg.110mb.com/GrandOr...dowsReverb.htm
    and
    Using GrandOrgue with Noteworthy Composer - http://www.grahamg.110mb.com/GrandOr...NoteWorthy.htm

    If you're interested in any of these topics please check them out and send me some feedback :-)

    GrahamG

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    Hi Guys,
    For those following Erik's problem in Ubuntu/Puppy Linux, we think we have discovered the problem:

    "Many consumer audio interfaces support only 1 sample rate (48kHz).
    When JACK used to fail to start if the user asked for 44.1kHz and the
    device did not support it, users howled. So we changed it so that it
    picks the closest available rate. Qjackctl displays the rate that was
    obtained."

    As GrandOrgue requires a sample rate of 44.1khz, it is not able to recognize Jack running at 48khz (if Jack can't run at 44.1khz it will automatically try 48khz and configure itself to that sample rate because of the issue quoted above).

    There is a proposed solution that I have working on my own computer, GrandOrgue48. A version of GrandOrgue that will run at 48khz, but it also requires sample sets to be 48khz. I have not yet worked out a way to differentiate between the sample rate of the wave files and the sample rate of the audio stream that plays. So, for now, GrandOrgue48 will require that your sample sets are converted from 44.1khz to 48khz before you can load them.

    GrandOrgue48 is not yet ready for release, but if you have the same issue that Erik has please let me know and you can become an Alpha Tester of GrandOrgue48 :-)

    GrahamG
    Last edited by ggoode.sa; Dec-02-2009 at 08:05.

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    Dear All,

    Will it be possible to load Hauptwerk 3 sound fonts in grand Orgue ? i Know it is not possible now, but can it be made possible?

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    Hi Alex,
    That will depend on the license of the HW3 sample set producer. If the sample set is only released as an HW3 encrypted sample set then it will not be possible to play it with GrandOrgue.

    If the sample set has been released as unencypted wav files and the sample set producer has given permission/license for the sample set to be used in other samplers (like Gigastudio/Kontakt/GrandOrgue/Soundfonts), then it is possible to create an organ defition file that will load the wave files. Sometimes the wave files will need to be resampled to 16bit 44.1khz.

    As HW3 now has a free mode installation, windows users can install it and try out the HW3 organs. Milan Digital Audio have a list available on their website.

    Yves has produced an organ file creator application that can be used to create the .organ file needed by GrandOrgue, so go and check it out as well.

    Hope that helps!
    GrahamG

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