But it seems that most "breeds" are decided by human observation. Probably true with most other animals, too.
Quite right CT, I thought it would bring out the philosophers among us.J.H.C. - isn't this a little too unanswerable? I'd rather contemplate a nice place to have cooked breakfast with my partner on a Saturday morning than why a blue-bottle ended up blue and not screaming pink.
So does that mean we just accept it without giving it any consideration??There is no "why", it is simply a process we have observed in nature.
So is that wrong?? Is it not a justified way of thinking?Assuming that it implies a teleology is simply anthropomorphizing.
But the odds are surly in favour of life elsewhere and if it does exist would you expect it to evolve?As far as its inevitability, I don't think that's the right word. We have no evidence that organisms have emerged anywhere else but here,
so it clearly isn't a necessary effect of a planet's evolution. If you mean, "is it inevitable given the right conditions" then we don't know the answer to that, yet.
The idea of many universes is, of course, pure speculation, so we can't really say anything meaningful about it. It's an interesting idea, and supposedly some models in quantum physics support some justification for this speculation, but there is currently no evidence to support it, afaik. It is a useful concept in formal logic, though.
So does that mean we just accept it without giving it any consideration??
We have observed quite a bit innature and asked why, and sometimes we get an answer
So is that wrong?? Is it not a justified way of thinking?
But the odds are surly in favour of life elsewhere and if it does exist would you expect it to evolve?
agreed, we also dont know if other sets of conditions rule out life. So if life is not just confined to this planet would you or would you not expect to see evolution?
Certainly not. It is given the same consideration as any scientific theory.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "why". Could you be more specific? Science deals with how things work not why they are there. Why generally has to do with intent or purpose.
It's not wrong in the moral sense, but it is certainly irrational to attribute human qualities to non-human things without reason.
Yes. The odds are in favor of life elsewhere and I would expect it to evolve given the right conditions.
Yes, given the right conditions.
That’s correct and I am not asking scientifically but philosophically, Science asks how, philosophy asks why.
Did I mention Human?
Thank you ,so why would you expect it to evolve ??
Why what? I don't know what you're asking.
Yes, you did. Purpose, intention and consciousness are functions of the human brain. We know this because we are human and those things are part of our experience. They are functions of our species. When we attribute a function of our species to something other than our species, that is anthropomorphizing. It is an assumption that the other thing has this human function.
Because there is no evidence that the mechanics of the universe are different on other planets.
Have a look at my OP
Why do we have evolution? was there a choice?
No way
I did not mention Human you used the term Teleological which is ok but you added anthropomorphizing so you made the assumption.
There is also no evidence that it is not different but that is not the point and does not address my original query.
Are you asking why we developed the model that is evolution or are you asking why the processes we describe with that model exist or something else?
NoWhen you ask about choice, are you asking if we had a choice in developing the model or if there was a choice in the processes it describes existing or something else?
You may have a clear understanding of your questions, but you certainly have not made them clear to anyone else.
Teleology is the study of purpose. Purpose is a human characteristic. It isn't necessarily strictly a human characteristic, but claiming that anything other than a human has purpose without justification is anthropomorphizing. If you have justification for the claim that something has purpose then you are not anthropomorphizing.
What original query? You asked me if I thought evolution would occur on another planet given the right conditions and I said yes. You then asked me why and I told you. Now you are claiming that it doesn't matter and is irrelevant. Do you actually want answers to these questions or are you just looking to squabble?
Also...
Of course there is evidence that physical laws are the same everywhere. Objects behave the same everywhere we look in the universe.
smiles widely @ J.H.C.