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    Johannus Opus 10 to talk to Hauptwerk

    I have a Johannus Opus 10 and I'm trying to use Organ Assist 2.5 to talk to Hauptwerks. I get Organ Assist to recognize the Johannus and transfer the signals down to the Organ Assist Hauptwerk organ. But the Hauptwerk prgram doesn't see it. I'm using LoopB1 to connect.

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    Hi Glenna,

    A little more information will be required before we can really help you... like what organ is loaded in Hauptwerk? Have you configured the Hauptwerk MIDI Inputs and matched them to that organ settings? It might be best to visit the Hauptwerk forum and read through some of the posts there as others have done this and have it working. If you're using LoopBe1 I'd assume you're on a 64-bit computer, is it Windows XP, Vista, or Win7?

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    Thank you ggoode.sa I am trying to get Hauptwerks (say just with the St Ann Moesly organ) torecognize the expression pedal, stops and pistons of my Johannus Opus 10 organ. I have rerouted the keyboard midi channels to match my Johannus organ but when I try to get Organ Assist to rerout the other controles Hauptwerk doesn't recognize them. I mapped the Johannus with the automatic learn the keyboards and stops. Whan I run Organ Assist and Hauptwerks I see the stops being depressed on the Organ Assist St Ann but the Hauptwerks St Ann organ does not see the stop changes. The Hauptwerk plays what I'm playing on the Johannus but does not see the stip changes I make on the Johannus. Hope this is more clear.

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    Hi Glenna,
    It seems that the step you are missing is configuring Hauptwerk to recieve the Stop changing MIDI messages. Have a look at this tutorial: http://www.sth-steel.fi/~graham/Interfacing_a_jOrgan_GUI_with_Hauptwerk.pdf . It is written by a friend who is using jOrgan to control Hauptwerk in a similar manner to how you are using Organ Assist. You can skip all the info about the jOrgan configuration and go to the Hauptwerk section, particularly Task 3 - Configuring Switch MIDI inputs - variable parameters on p23 and following.
    If you have any questions do ask!
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    I got it to work with a lot of tinkering. Thank you ggode.sa the link was helpful especially the page that translated the MIDI Channel to Note-on/off values.

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    Hi Glenna,
    I'm glad to hear that you got it working! Hopefully Hauptwerk 4.0 will be somewhat easier to configure, MIDI-wise, as all that 'tinkering' takes time!
    Have fun!
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    Now I have everything working with Ogan Assist except the expression pedals. Does anyone know how to make them work with Hauptwerk? I am able to get Hauptwerk to see my Johannus expression pedals when I connect Midi directly to Hauptwerk but not when I send it through Organ Assist. And the LoopBe Midi channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenna View Post
    Now I have everything working with Ogan Assist except the expression pedals. Does anyone know how to make them work with Hauptwerk? I am able to get Hauptwerk to see my Johannus expression pedals when I connect Midi directly to Hauptwerk but not when I send it through Organ Assist. And the LoopBe Midi channel.

    What version of hauptwerk do you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenna View Post
    Now I have everything working with Ogan Assist except the expression pedals. Does anyone know how to make them work with Hauptwerk? I am able to get Hauptwerk to see my Johannus expression pedals when I connect Midi directly to Hauptwerk but not when I send it through Organ Assist. And the LoopBe Midi channel.
    Hi Glenna !
    Do you mean that you connect your Johannus with a midi/usb interface and then went to Hw - continuus controls assignments, and you set the appropriate midi ch & controller for pedals ?
    In my set-up(with Yamaha EL-900) it's midi controller no.11 for cressendos (right pedal)and no.4 for swells(left pedal) all in ch16(Yamaha default).

    I got Organ assistant and LoopBe 1, but so far I haven't use them cause I work OK with my simpler set-up (Organ console-USB interface-HW3-pc out-active speakers)
    Also keep in mind that HW saves a lotta stuff for makin' our work easier

    Panos

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    I am using the latest HW 3.21 I believe. It recognizes the expression pedals directly. But when I try to use the expression pedals with Organ Assist 2.5 it does not see the changes. I am using Organ Assist and LoopBe1 with my organ on Hauptwerk. It changes the stops and even the crasendo pedal but it won't recognize the expression pedals from my organ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenna View Post
    I am using the latest HW 3.21 I believe. It recognizes the expression pedals directly. But when I try to use the expression pedals with Organ Assist 2.5 it does not see the changes. I am using Organ Assist and LoopBe1 with my organ on Hauptwerk. It changes the stops and even the crasendo pedal but it won't recognize the expression pedals from my organ.
    Hi again glenna !

    Why using assistant to chang the stops. HW can be assigned to see the changes right from your organ. Or even better to change generals with your pistons from Johannus.
    3.21 I got too.
    Is Johannus not sending CX (program change) from its pistons?
    If yes on what channel? Assign that channel directly to HW(switch controls)
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    Hi Guys,

    @ Panos, when using OrganAssist Glenna can record MIDI and play it back, create play lists, and organise her interface is a different manner to HW.

    @ Glenna, please use a MIDI monitor (like MIDI-OX) to test what information is coming out of Organ Assist. As I don't use it I can't diagnose what is wrong, but a MIDI monitor should show you whether MIDI signals are being sent from Organ Assist out to HW, and if they are being sent, then it will show you what those MIDI signals are. Shout if you need help with MIDI-OX (www.midiox.com).

    GrahamG

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    Hi graham thanks for point out these ! I have them both I still don't use them. I only use MidiMedic from OrganWorks as a simple monitor and it showed me some pretty stuff here in some difficult situations....
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    I used Organ Assist because it seemed the easiest way to use Hauptwerk with my organ and other virtual organs. I could reconfigure each organ to match my stops. My Johannus uses channel 12 for stop information. Program change 0-8 Pedal, 10-19 Swell, 21-30 Great, 32-38 Accessories and 40-44 special voices. The presets, general and divisional combinations sen System Exclusive messages and send the stop values that change. I am not sure how to set up Hauptwerk to recognize my stops. Organ Assist has a caputure mode to get the information directly from the organ switches.

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