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    Quote Originally Posted by Contratrombone64 View Post
    Lars, this is total goatsh*t. The reason Americans in general drive is because they think it's their god given right to do so . . . No offence to my American friends by the way AND for what it's worth, middle and rich Australia is just as bad.
    No offense taken, David

    And, I appreciate your comments ... it's true what you are saying. But, there are some places in the world where driving is a necessity, like where I live, because there is no other alternative.

    My wife uses public transportation to/from work everyday - it works for her as there is a stop a block away from our home, and the drop/pick-up point is downtown right in front of her building.

    My twice weekly trip to church is possible using public transportation, but the journey would entail 3.5 hours of time and also require walking the last 4 miles. I am not willing to walk 4 miles in this wicked heat in my Sunday best, carrying a satchel full of music. The distance is 13 miles and I can drive it in 22 minutes, exercising my "need to drive".

    Heck, our city can't even keep up with decent road repairs - potholes all over the place (I have to have my cars alignment done twice a year) - and our city council seems far more concerned with voting themselves raises instead of doing what needs to be done. Unfortunately, the blokes still have two more years before the next election. Pooh!!

    Agreed, it needs to stop somewhere ... and I personally would love to not even have a car, but until the politicians get off their duffs and do something about it, there's little hope for change.

    Even if our legislators decided today that there were unlimited funds for building light rail systems, monorails and such all over the state, it would take another 10 years or so for all the "studies" on how it would affect the pigmy owls, the lizards, desert vegetation, and how it would restrict access to illegal aliens crossing the borders ... then another 10 years on the drawing boards ... then another 10 years to revise the drawings, and ... well ... I'll be dead and long gone by the time it even becomes a reality .
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    Krummhorn, Madisonville,Ky doesn't have a good bus system
    either. We have a system called PACS. I noticed a lot of
    them are always breaking down. Only about four or five are
    still in driving condition. But just like any other city or small
    town, they can build a courthouse but they can't afford a
    good bussing system to replace PACS. If you don't know
    what PACS stands for it's Pennyrile Allied Community Service.
    Not really a good bussing system unless you want to catch
    a Greyhound outside of town.
    judy tooley

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    I have the same problem geting to work. One and a half hours on the bus, or twenty minutes by car. Do I want to add over two hours to my working day, unpaid? The round trip of thirty miles to Canterbury with the family would cost £15.00 by bus or £5.00 by car. It might be said it is my own fault for living in a village instead of a town, but at least I have some peace and quiete here.

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    We have quite a good bus and rail service here, not as good as it used to be in terms of some of areas served but better in terms of buses on the main routes, there being two companies competing for custom. Fares don't bother me, I have a free senior citizens pass.

    Express bus service hourly to Central London and London airports, other destinations less frequent. If you book well in advance you can often get to London for £1. Also senior citizen concession fares.

    Rail service 2 each hour from about 7 am through 7pm to London (110 miles) one express at 1H.40 with 1 stop at Southampton, the other stops at more places and takes about 2 hours: less frequent services to the midlands and north with connections to Scotland.

    But as Teddy says living out of town is entirely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
    I have a free senior citizens pass.
    Also senior citizen concession fares.
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    That may not last long if BP wobbles, UK has a lot of its pension fund invested in BP or so I understand

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    When BP wobbles fish die ...
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
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    Very true David,
    I have lost faith in governments they are too cosy with "The Market" it just makes me wonder how many backhanders go around? another form of ideology just as bad as the religious ones

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    Not all governments are anathema. I seem to remember your country had no problems telling the US their nuclear warships were NOT welcome in Auckland Harbour. Also seem to remember you Kiwis gave the Frogs a run for their money, too.
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contratrombone64 View Post
    Not all governments are anathema. I seem to remember your country had no problems telling the US their nuclear warships were NOT welcome in Auckland Harbour. Also seem to remember you Kiwis gave the Frogs a run for their money, too.
    Very true those were the days then along came a joker 'Roger Douglas' and forced Rogernomice down our throats we have gone down hill ever since although there is still some land that Kiwis still own but China has its beady little eyes on that

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    You may wish to do a search yahoo or google or what ever engine you like or a search at youtube even for these terms, 'climate change scam', and watch out for the 15,000 scientists who say climate change is not a real threat. Just another perspective you could look into.

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    I have alwys upheld the view that climatescare is a good way of making money for the choosen few

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    teddles - you are spot on. It's genuinely irritating that the cotton-wool clad marfia making business adopt a series of "commonsense laws" for the sake of so called Occupational Health and Safety. My experience with OH&S operatives is very negative and I deal with them daily in my job. They are just interested in their consulting fees at the end of the day.
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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    It's always the "chosen few" that make any sort of money, always some new "in thing" ; I well remember "time and motion studies" , "work studies" and numerous other "studies" that all involved "consultants" making buckets of dosh for rhemselves H&S are just the current shower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catrina View Post
    You may wish to do a search yahoo or google or what ever engine you like or a search at youtube even for these terms, 'climate change scam', and watch out for the 15,000 scientists who say climate change is not a real threat. Just another perspective you could look into.
    I think you will find that everyone (except the top story impaired) agrees that Climate change is happening, it has been happening ever since the earth had an atmosphere, but how much (if any) effect man makes is very,very questionable. Volcanic activity makes the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.H.C. View Post
    I think you will find that everyone (except the top story impaired) agrees that Climate change is happening, it has been happening ever since the earth had an atmosphere, but how much (if any) effect man makes is very,very questionable. Volcanic activity makes the difference
    True. Accusations fly around I see on the internet and elsewhere "Oh that Lord Monkton is opposed to climate change - he is just some nut case protecting the aristocracy and proposes these ludicruous conspiracy theories' and they have a point, but so do the nutcases ;P

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