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    Tidal power makes far more sense, tides flow predictably, wind in most places doesn't, water is more dense than air so smaller blades will generate the same or more power.

    The installation does not give us a spoilt land/sea scape. It does not have to be a tidal barrage like they proposed for the river Severn estuary which could have environmental issues, destroying wildlife habitats etc.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_power#Axial_Turbines
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    (A) It is common sense
    (B) No one can see them under water
    (C) No one is getting ripped off

    Therefore it is not getting the funding it deserves.

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    Another money maker eh
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    Our man DorsetMike makes a terrific point - Here's three cheers to him
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    Latest announcement on the news re our wind fart - sorry - typo - wind farm. Total output enough for 200,000 homes. Expected output enough for 50,000 homes (our catchment area of the Isle of Thanet is app. 100,000). Extra subsidy to be charged on our electricity bills is +14%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    Our man DorsetMike makes a terrific point - Here's three cheers to him
    CD, It's OK for places like UK where we have lots of sea around, but I haven't noticed any tide tables published for Moscow
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    I am sure most countries have rivers where the new technology could be used without resorting to dams etc.

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    I think you'd find with most rivers if the flow is fast enough the volume is insufficient, after many tributaries have joined the rivers are usually on lower more level plains, the volume is then sufficient but the flow is much slower, this is why they resort to dams for hydro electric generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
    I think you'd find with most rivers if the flow is fast enough the volume is insufficient, after many tributaries have joined the rivers are usually on lower more level plains, the volume is then sufficient but the flow is much slower, this is why they resort to dams for hydro electric generation.
    You would not even think about touching a river in NZ the Bl.... greenies would create havoc.
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    We have similar problems here Colin. last year they refused to spray the salt water marshes were the mosquito's breed. This year we have had a plague of them. Apparently the mossies have more rights than us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddy View Post
    We have similar problems here Colin. last year they refused to spray the salt water marshes were the mosquito's breed. This year we have had a plague of them. Apparently the mossies have more rights than us.

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    Yeh they seem to think any thing in its natural state should not be touched, perhaps they should be teleported back to the stone age
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    Good job we don't have dinosaurs in Kent. We would probably be forced to feed them. Actually, looking at some of the politicians and council members.. we do have them and we do have to feed them.

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    Foreword: I have not read this whole thread.
    Complications: This topic is so complicated that we cannot even rely on what we, ourselves, post. For one thing, the scientific community has been "corrupted" by trillions of dollars in research money. For another, the bulk of the population, at least according to a recent Yale University poll, doesn't have a clue! And yet these are the very people who elect people to address the issue.
    Fundamentally: In our current political culture, even if global warming was known to be leading us to a non-turning point situation with dramatic consequences for our grand-children and fatal consequences for our great-grand-children, we, electors, would still not put it on top of our political agenda. Rather, we would continue, gros Jean comme devant, to place jobs, the economy, taxes, etc., at the top of our electoral decisions.
    New generation: But that's us, caught up in our own little short-sighted world. What's encouraging is the emergence of younger people who have the energy, the commitment, the endless dedication that we used to have when we were 25 y.o. The sharp ones will throw us to the curb, under the bus, and threat us for what we are: short-sighted idiots.

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    Ouled Nails,
    for what its worth I agree with most of your post,. what could the politicians do any way ? look at France when asked to work a couple of years longer before retirement riots erupt, just imagine if oil was forbidden as a fuel. That climate change is and always will be happening is a fact, that it is caused by man seems to be doubtful from what I can sort out but I am a pure layman, and as you say the whole debate is corrupted by hunger for the Dollar [carbon credit’s a great money making scheme] we have plenty of water (hydrogen) now there is a powerful and clean fuel.
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    Hi ON,

    I agree with most of your posting. Furthermore, the Carbon Credit is a ill-hidden Tax that Governments will apply willy-nilly in order to feed an ever-bloating Public Sector. The corruption is so total!
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

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