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    News of massive public spending cuts and major cuts in welfare payments, to try and reduce the countries deficits. Far too many jobs were created by the former goverment and these, along with quangos are being axed. Currently our local council spends 25% of our rates bill on public sector pensions.
    Good news all round. Also an announcement that eight new nuclear power stations will be built, so we will not hav to buy our electricity from France.

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    Once again, during this very cold period, all those new windmills they built off the coast here have been useless. The calm that often accompanies extreme cold ensured that they were totally useless, just when we needed them most. I see the latest figures on global warming state that there has been no overall increase in the last 50 years. They only had to visit my bathroom to workthat out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddy View Post
    Once again, during this very cold period, all those new windmills they built off the coast here have been useless.

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    The sails had probably frozen if they had used a better quality Snake Oil things would have been sorted
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    I honestly can't see why they don't go for more tide driven generators, tide flows are predictable and happen every day.
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    Its simply Mike. Windmills are generally more visible. A LOOK WHAT WE HAVE DONE mentality, thereby allowing then the excuse to screw us financially. Water operated generation is lower profile, despite the fact that it works better.

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    Also Wind Generation is a lot easier to service/repair
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    Not when it is out at sea surely. Not unless they use submarines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddy View Post
    Not when it is out at sea surely. Not unless they use submarines.

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    No No teddy the sails are above water
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    A lot of the tidal turbines can be raised above surface for maintenance, either by winch or hydraulics. The maintenabce costs for off shore wind farms should be little different from tidal turbines. Some critics of tidal power quote corrosion by sea water, current plastics technology with carbon and glass fibre are good enough to make suitable casings such that sea water does not come on contact with much, if any, metal.

    Wind turbines either on shore or of shore all suffer from the unpredictability of wind which at times can be dead calm or too weak to turn the sails, or sometimes too strong in gales, whereas tideal flow is more or less constant except for a short period at high or low tide, the latter is not a significant problem though as a location a further along the coast will have high and low tides at a different time.

    Another source of power is geothermal which again is not dependant on the vagaries of wind.
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    I think the short term answer is to use a mix of all types, in NZ we are lucky that we have places that are windy 90% of the time and Rivers that are easy to access but the final answer must be "That lucky old Sun with nuttin to do......) when we have the know how it will provide all of our power needs
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    In the last 24 hours wind power provided 0.1% of UK electricity (1107MWh out of 1199919MWh), the most on record was back in September when it attained 5% (must have been a gale blowing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
    In the last 24 hours wind power provided 0.1% of UK electricity (1107MWh out of 1199919MWh), the most on record was back in September when it attained 5% (must have been a gale blowing).
    Still better than Nuclear do you think?
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    No, I don't think so Colin. Over here we have been promised a new nuclear program to ensure we are not dependent on other countries for power, as we are at present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.H.C. View Post
    Still better than Nuclear do you think?
    Nuclear averages around 15%

    This site gives a load of info, scroll well down for a table of current and recent percentages for each fuel type, wind just got up to 0.2% (updated at 5 min intervals)

    http://www.bmreports.com/bsp/bsp_home.htm
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    Shame they can not link the windmills to the politicians. Plenty of wind there.

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