If you had...

[lombardo]

Hi all!

Imagine that you had UNLIMITED money and lots of space and you wanted to have an organ on that space. What would be its disposition? Would it be german type? Or maybe french? Or theatre? Or a little bit from every type?

How you imagine the organ of your dreams?

 

[wljmrbill]

WOW the Lottery..let me think on this one

 

[Soubasse]

No quandry for me, something as close as possible to the St Sulpice organ (preferably in a space about the same size, and perhaps with modern performance aids). In the absence of Aristide C-C himself, I'd probably ask Lively & Fulcher if they'd feel like tackling such a project.

Anyway, that's all a fantasy for another life, another time, another universe!

 

[Dorsetmike]

I don't play myself, but I think I'd like to clone the Wimborne Minster organ, then fly all you good players out there over here to play for me!

 

[Ghekorg7 (Ret)]

I don't play myself, but I think I'd like to clone the Wimborne Minster organ, then fly all you good palyers out there over here to play for me!

A good one Mike !

I would like a mixed 4 manual/ped Beast consisting of the best Silbermann "silvery" stops, The most from Great Salisbury and allmost all from Aristede....
I ask too much ?

 

[lombardo]

A good one Mike !

I would like a mixed 4 manual/ped Beast consisting of the best Silbermann "silvery" stops, The most from Great Salisbury and allmost all from Aristede....
I ask too much ?

On this post there's nothing too big. This post is for those who have much imagination and don't want a limited organ. This is to know what is your view of an unlimited organ. An organ were all your favourite pieces or where every literature is possible to play.

 

[QFE]

An interesting 'what if' very dependant on the building, but assuming something appropriately large and friendly...

I would go with Soubasse up to a point and make additions along the lines of Lincoln cathedral organ - nothing like a typical English 'Full Swell' sound. For those not familiar with it, it sounds like the gates of hell opening as you open the box

I'd go for several consoles, the St Sulpice as is, a German baroque one - possibly a Bach-type replica and a basically Eniglish draw-stop console to my own individual specification... over to an organ builder to sort out the action!!

 

[Ghekorg7 (Ret)]

On this post there's nothing too big. This post is for those who have much imagination and don't want a limited organ. This is to know what is your view of an unlimited organ. An organ were all your favourite pieces or where every literature is possible to play.

For my favourite pieces (Bach/Buxtehude/Pachelbel/Frescobaldi/Praetorius/Couperin/Boyce/Purcell/Bohm) I want just the Freiberg Cathedral Silbermann.

For every literature Notre-Dame de Laaken Cavaille-Coll.

Is that Ok Lombardo ?

Cheers
Panos

 

[smilingvox]

For me.... not an unlimited space, but a limited space in the form of a very large studio apt..... a former bank bldg in Italianate/Greek Revival/Beaux-Art (just a vision).

Tonally, the organ would be an Atlantic City Midmer-Losh in miniature (52 ranks). Most ranks are unified, enclosed, spread among 4 swell boxes, which are adjoined to one another (an idea I got from a diagram Senator Richards drew up).

Wind pressures at 10", 15", and 25". Softest (Viola Sorda 8', 4') to the loudest (Ophicleide 32', 16', 8', 4'). Italian Renaissance case and console (4 manuals with stop keys). Placed near the center of the banking floor. The Echo would be in the ceiling. My sleeping quarters would be a partitioned-off corner.

Here's the tonal analysis, since a full stop list would take up too much space:

Unenclosed (*= originates on Pedal)

Contra Bass 32' (16', 10 2/3', 8', 5 1/3', 4'); 15" *
Open Wood 16' (8', 4'); 15" *
Double Diapason 16' (10 2/3', 8', 5 1/3', 4'); 10"
Bourdon 16' (10 2/3', 8', 5 1/3', 4'); 10" *
1st Diapason 8'; 15"
1st Principal 4'; 15"
Twelfth 2 2/3'; 10"
Fifteenth 2'; 10"
Double Ophicleide 32' (16', 8', 4'); 25" *


Enclosed A (*= originates in Pedal)

Contra Spitz Flute 16' (8', 4', 2'); 10"
Contra Viol 16' (10 2/3', 8', 5 1/3', 4', 2 2/3', 2'); 10"
Harmonic Flute 8' (4', 2 2/3', 2', 1 1/3', 1', 2/3', 1/2'); 10"
Flute Celeste 8' (4'); 10"
Vox Celeste 8' (4'); 10"
Tierce 6 2/5' (3 1/5', 1 3/5', 4/5', 2/5'); 10" *
Principal 4'; 10"
Fourniture 15.17.19.22; 10"
Double Trumpet 16' (4'); 15"
Trumpet 8'; 15"
Orchestral Oboe 8' (4'); 10"

Enclosed B

Stentor Diapason 8'; 25"
Bass Tuba 16' (4'); 25"
Tuba Magna 8'; 25"
Corno Francese 8' (4'); 25"

Enclosed C (*= originates in Pedal)
Geigen Diapason 8' (4', 2', 1', 1/2'); 10"
Voce Umana 8' (4'); 10"
Gedeckt 8' (4, 2'); 10"
Septieme 4 4/7' (2 2/7', 1 1/7', 4/7'); 10" *
Nonieme 3 5/9' (1 7/9', 8/9', 4/9'); 10" *
Quint 2 2/3' (1 1/3', 2/3'); 10"
Contra Oboe 16' (8', 4'); 10"
Double Bell Clarinet 16' (8', 4'); 10"
Vox Humana 8' (4'); 10"

Enclosed D

Viola Sorda 8' (4'); 10"
Vox Aetheria 8' (4'); 10"
Corno Inglese 16' (8', 4'); 10"
Sassophone Basso 16' (8', 4'); 10"

Echo Organ

Horn Diapason 8' (4'); 15"
Flauto Mirabilis 8'; 15"
Flute Celeste II 8' (4'); 15"
Orchestral Strings III 8' (4'); 15"
Oboe Gamba 8'; 15"
Tromba d'Amore 8'; 15"
Orchestral Clarinet 8'; 15"
Vox Humana 8' (4'); 15"
Vox Mystica 8' (4'); 15"

 

[Krummhorn]

I don't play myself, but I think I'd like to clone the Wimborne Minster organ, then fly all you good players out there over here to play for me!

Having recently played the Wimborne Minster organ ... thanks to Mike :tiphat: ... that would be a grand choice, maybe with a little more lively acoustics and a little bit different horizontal reed :crazy:.

For myself, I could clone the IV/79 Wurlitzer that's in Mesa, Arizona, without the console pit.

 

[Dorsetmike]

Having recently played the Wimborne Minster organ ... thanks to Mike :tiphat: ...
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More thanks to Sean (PCND5584) than me, I was just the go between!

 

[naDiNawasA]

I'd like to have a bamboo organ in my unlimited space

 

[Mush]

I know many who have done this. My teacher Dr Hammer had a nice Abbot and Seiker tracker action organ in her living room, which was one of two house pipe organs she had. My fave is still the Harold tracker at Alan Kays house. Here is real a knockout one near my house in Az.
http://midmerlosh.com/index.htm

 

[wljmrbill]

Very interesting and informative site Mush. Would be a delight to playthis instrument. Just goes to show what a little love( and money) can accomplish.

 

[Ntalikeris666]

Well, Speaking leterally, if I had UNLIMITED money as you say, i would buy EVERYTHING
But if you are reffering to organs, i would probably compose one which would combine Baroque styles, like a clone of a Silberman organ in conjunction with an Arp Schnitger, as well as every single aspect of a Cavaille coll. I would also make the case majestic.

 

[Ghekorg7 (Ret)]

Well, Speaking leterally, if I had UNLIMITED money as you say, i would buy EVERYTHING
But if you are reffering to organs, i would probably compose one which would combine Baroque styles, like a clone of a Silberman organ in conjunction with an Arp Schnitger, as well as every single aspect of a Cavaille coll. I would also make the case majestic.

Hi Nick ! Long time no.....talk !

We missed you here....

I'm with you, Silbermann/Schnitger and full Coll YES.

(Are we forgetin' Skiner?)

 

[Corno Dolce]

Combining Cavaille-Coll with Silbermann, Schnitger, Skinner, Wurlitzer, and Willis???

Please, someone pass me the barf-bag <: - (

Appropriate literature on appropriate instruments - Yes, one can credibly play all literature on a suitably sized Skinner. I am however with Soubasse in re St. Sulpice :grin::grin::grin:

And yes, GrandMaster Krummhorn's Wurlitzer does very well indeed

Ooops! I feel that a 'flame war' can be ignited - spontaneously, if I may add ray:ray:ray:

@smilingvox: Sassophone? Is that for when one is feeling sassy? :lol::lol::lol:

 

[Ntalikeris666]

Hi Nick ! Long time no.....talk !

We missed you here....

I'm with you, Silbermann/Schnitger and full Coll YES.

(Are we forgetin' Skiner?)

Yea indeed, it has been a while since we last talked.
It is that darn last 3rd Highschool grade in conjunction with all the music stuff i have to study (though these i like contrary to all the stuff we do at school), so you understand i dont really have that much free time.

About the organ, maybe i would make another 2 smaller organs (combination of Skinner/Klais/other modern brands) which would be connected to the central console, while being independent as well.

But then, i dont know if there is enough wood and metal on earth to make all these pipes! xD

 

[smilingvox]

@smilingvox: Sassophone? Is that for when one is feeling sassy? :lol::lol::lol:

Har-har Hardi-har-har-har..... :grin:

Actually, I misspelled it. It's Sassofono. Italian for saxophone.

In this organ, it was really the sound of the Great-Solo Orchestral Saxophone, in the big Atlantic City organ, I was after.

The other day, listened to one of the Saxophone pipes, but found that I confused it with the other stop, which I had checked out a couple years ago.

The name, then, would be changed to Sassofono d'Orchestra, if I could edit my stoplist.


Oh, this is an opportunity for me to clarify that the 10 2/3's, in the list, would obviously be available only in the Pedal (unless I were to wire the 32' Contra Bass to one of the manuals).

 

[Corno Dolce]

Hi smilingvox,

Yes, thanx for edifying me in re to "Sassofono".

Oooh! A 32' Contrabass in the manuals - rich indeed...

A great tonal analysis if I may add........