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    Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler Corno Dolce's Avatar
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    Pavel Chesnokov

    Please let me add lust a little info about a very famous composer and choral conductor in Russia: Pavel Chesnokov who was for many years the chief conductor and composer-in-residence at Christ the Saviour Cathedral (my home Parish) has written somewhat over 500 works for choir, 400 of which are meant to be performed during liturgy or other occasions, whilst 100 are of a more secular nature.

    By the age of thirty he had written about 333 pieces for choir. His music is in many ways specifically "calculated and written" with the enormous acoustic space of the Cathedral in mind. Of course, they can very well be performed in other venues too. He has also written a book entitled "The Choir, and how to direct it". There is a most excellent translation done by Vladimir Morosan and published by Musica Russica in San Diego, which is wholly owned and operated by Mr. Morosan. If you are a lover or practitioner of Choral Music, please do try to get hold of a copy - it is most enlightening.

    Back to Grechaninov: Sadly, he stopped composing when the godless Bolsheviks demolished the Cathedral. The man was heart-broken because of what had happened. Thankfully, Russians from all over sent funds, and with gifts from the Moscow City Government the Cathedral was rebuilt and now its quite an establishment. There is a huge Concert Hall underneath the Cathedral and another huge Sanctuary to boot.

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    CD
    Last edited by Krummhorn; Nov-11-2010 at 02:52. Reason: Corr sp of composer per member request
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    Very interesting reading. Do you have any clips of his music? I am not that familiar with Russian composers except the usual ones we all know. Thanks for posting.
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    Always interesting to read your clips CD. Keep them coeming

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    Correction

    I have inadvertently given the wrong last name - The last name should read "Chesnokov" - Not Grechaninov. There is however a composer named Aleksandr Grechaninov but his music is totally different. I shall send some clips later.

    Sorry for the confusion...

    Grechaninov's (S Nami Bog) God Among Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BANVN...eature=related

    Also: Let My Prayer Arise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvafb...eature=related

    Also: Blessed is the Man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlimN...e=more_related
    Last edited by Corno Dolce; Nov-10-2010 at 20:17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    I have inadvertently given the wrong last name - The last name should read "Chesnokov" - Not Grechaninov . . .
    Sorry for the confusion...
    Admin note: as requested by Corno Dolce, we've edited the last name in the posting as well as the thread title. All's good once again.
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    Thanks very much for the clips. I really enjoyed them. I have always admired the accapella work done by the Russian Church in the Liturgical services.
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    Another masterpiece by Chesnokov:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdKsjCRWUws

    Well, since I am at the "epicenter" of the Russian Orthodox Church, Christ the Saviour Cathedral in Moscow, it would be easy for me to share, provided there youtube clips, the different repertoire that Russian composers have bequeathed the Church. The Choral Library at the Cathedral is VERY vast, so there is much to pick and choose from.

    A picture from the Choir Gallery: http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com...pg?w=600&h=918

    Another picture: http://www.parallelsixty.com/images/...helicopter.jpg
    Last edited by Corno Dolce; Nov-14-2010 at 14:41.
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    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    Wow, that's one lavish looking abode there CD. A concert hall under the cathedral?? (more wow).
    So, a vast choral library featuring contributions from numerous Russian composers, for which the people running things there obviously have some respect? ... how I envy you right now!
    And the organ there is ...?
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    Hi Br. Soubasse,

    No organ is allowed in Russian Orthodox Church Liturgical services. However, the Greek Orthodox Church does make room for a "quiet accompanimental instrument". Yes, the Moscow Patriarchate is very keen on preserving the sacred music heritage of Russia - And they have plenty of high-caliber people who spend countless hours on cataloging, researching, and caring for the collections - And they have lots of people all over Russia who "scour" the countryside in search of any treasures.

    CD
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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