WikiLeaks

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
What are your views on WikiLeaks??
Is it doing harm or good? The following is from their website
 
WikiLeaks is a non-profit media organization dedicated to bringing important news and information to the public. We provide an innovative, secure and anonymous way for independent sources around the world to leak information to our journalists. We publish material of ethical, political and historical significance while keeping the identity of our sources anonymous, thus providing a universal way for the revealing of suppressed and censored injustices.

This is THE MAN Julian Assange



A great effort is being made to discredit him?? What do you think?
 

Dorsetmike

Member
Just another storm in a teacup, for this and other "media sensations" I tend nowadays to ask myself

Does it really affect me?

Can I do anything about it?

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Krummhorn

Administrator
Staff member
ADMINISTRATOR
Ahah! A good debate question.

I firmly believe that our US government withholds lots of information from its citizens. What Julian is doing is exposing that information, good or bad, and in some cases forcing our government to take action on certain items and to give straight answers to the public.

Rarely have we ever gotten any straight answers from any politician here.

I used to work in for a military contractor ... there were matters that went undisclosed, like the cost of hammers ($350.00) and toilet seats ($795.00) paid with "our" tax monies - I always thought it was very wrong and needed to be exposed. I mean, that $795 toilet seat did not feel any different than the one at Walmart for $3.25.

Mike raises a good point too ... I can't do anything about it ... none of us can unless we bond in numbers and march against capitol hill. I also thing the media is at fault too ... making a mountain out of a molehill.
 

marval

New member
I agree there are things we do not know. but there is nothing we can do about it.

Whether my knowing about these things matters, I am not sure. If it was very bad and I could make changes, then I might be interested.


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JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
I think it is good that these things are coming out, for far too long we have been treated as dumb idiots only useful as cannon fodder, OK there are areas of sensitive military info that must not be leaked but who decides on that?
Ever since the Internet came into common use the power elite are scared, they want to control it (www) so that we are kept in the dark (as the man said, You know where you are in the dark) so I say good on him, at last we can do something about it.
 

teddy

Duckmeister
The alegation of rape is a powerful tool for discrediting people. Can be very hard to prove, but also very hard to disprove, and meanwhile the person accused is discredited, maybe even jailed. As far as information being witheld from the public, who decides what is in the best interest? The anti-terrorist Act has been used in this country to edject an elderly genteman, who incidentially is held in high esteem throughout the country, but was disagreeing with a Labour politician at an assembly. Arrested as a terrorist because you hold an opposing view. It was the goverment in power at the time that decieded that was reasonable. Who can we trust. Our previous prime minister lied to parliament about the threat to this country, and took us to war on a blatant lie. Who can you trust if not the prime minister. It is only by keeping everything as transparent as possible that we can be sure of the facts, whether it is local goverment or national, or even international events. In that respect maybe Julian Assange is doing us all a favour. Guilty of rape? I doubt it.

teddy
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Well said teddy I can't see anyone disagreeing with you
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
"Do No Evil" - As Google (r) likes to tout.......

I'm with Krummhorn on this one.

But, as the world witnessed what has happened in Egypt when it almost shut down the 'net in that region, so too can the U.S., Russia, Germany, France, Sweden, China, Japan and other "Key Nodes" shut down the 'net if there is too much mischief.................
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Well as the situation in Egypt has shown the ordinary man can now make a difference thanks to the mobile phone and the Internet, perhaps the case brought against Assange may start a new set of leaks with a bit of Geek pressure.
 

greatcyber

New member
Personally I don't see anything criminal in what Julian is doing. Blowing the whistle (sorry Martha) is a good thing. Expose the truths and let the chips fall where they may.

I agree, this is a very good topic for debate. I'm looking forward to the site releasing international banking records along with credit card company "business practices" with great anticipation.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
I would have thought that the Governments concerned would be more concerned in tightening their security than pursuing this man, a good wake up call for them
 

teddy

Duckmeister
Re the mobile phone and the Internet , both can be shut down if it suits the government concerned, and have been in the past. Technology can be controlled. Ameuter radio and CB radio are much harder to control. Maybe we should all utilise these forms of communication. Of course all forms of radio transmission can be traced, fixed sites being easier to locate than mobile. Oh blessed paranoia

teddy
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Would a government not be suicidal to close the www and mobiles ?? it would cost businesses big bucks and the smart nerds would soon find a way around it, as has happened in Libya the governments blockage of the www was easily by passed thank god for geeky kids eh
 
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