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    Smile Just Opera!

    Well...I am an opera lover and would like to speak with you about your tastes.

    I love mainly Russian opera...It is (IMHO) in between Italian and German opera....the two main branches...

    I'm not here to say What is good and what is bad...we have our opinions...and I'm sure I can learn from other people...and maybe you can learn a little bit from me...

    Let's speak about that.

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    Wow!

    Quote Originally Posted by Alban Berg View Post
    Well...I am an opera lover and would like to speak with you about your tastes.

    I love mainly Russian opera...It is (IMHO) in between Italian and German opera....the two main branches...

    I'm not here to say What is good and what is bad...we have our opinions...and I'm sure I can learn from other people...and maybe you can learn a little bit from me...

    Let's speak about that.

    Sincerely,

    Martin

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    A special Aida....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGf4gAiyoh4

    This guy, Calixto Beito is causing a revolution! Naked people, regular people...He doesn't mind....Sometimes I like it. I love the Wozzeck I bought by him.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25yK4mJ2aq4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq4NRc4O_xw



    Enjoy!

    Calixto Beito...a new approach...do you like it?

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    Martin, I don't partcipate in this part of the forum because I have never liked opera in all my life. I took a girl once to see Der Fliedermaus {spelling correct?} at Lincoln Center and that was more than enough. She broke up with me shortly afterwards. Mere coincidence? I think not!
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    LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    Martin, I don't partcipate in this part of the forum because I have never liked opera in all my life. I took a girl once to see Der Fliedermaus {spelling correct?} at Lincoln Center and that was more than enough. She broke up with me shortly afterwards. Mere coincidence? I think not!
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    Don't worry!

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    Smile my wife doesn't like opera

    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    Martin, I don't partcipate in this part of the forum because I have never liked opera in all my life. I took a girl once to see Der Fliedermaus {spelling correct?} at Lincoln Center and that was more than enough. She broke up with me shortly afterwards. Mere coincidence? I think not!
    But I like many other things about her...The basis of a relationship is respect and tolerance...I give that and I ask that too.

    Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alban Berg View Post
    But I like many other things about her...The basis of a relationship is respect and tolerance...I give that and I ask that too.

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    Hi, Martin. I was only kidding about us breaking up because of that--or any other--opera. We just weren't "meant for each other" and so we both moved on with our lives. I heard that she married a very successful man, and I'm glad for her. And you're absolutely right about the basis of a good relationship--kind of like the "Golden Rule" concept transposed to a secular setting. Congratulations on finding your soul mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    Martin, I don't partcipate in this part of the forum because I have never liked opera in all my life. I took a girl once to see Der Fliedermaus
    Actually there is some great music in that opera, not the deep intelligentsia kind of stuff that opera buffs like, but fine melodies.
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    Colin, do you really think a peasant such as myself would even know the difference? I do remember it being very "lively", if that's the right term. It was in 1977 or '78 that I took my girl to see it.
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    If you get a chance listen to some of it. The overture (in any opera) is always worth listening to as it usually covers all the main melodies etc also try "The Flying Dutchman" I think you will be pleasantly surprised as you are not new to classical, come on be a devil give it a go
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    The Dying Flutchman is certainly a fine overture (there are two versions of it, however, a Dresden and Paris) one leaves out the harp and makes the violins scurry about ever MORE than the other. Love it. Shame the rest of the opera is so silly.
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    I can't help it but I am posting here the Prelude I like the most. PLEASE listen to it and give me some comments!


    Schreker (see Entartete musik)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IMU4rfCUtE

    Thanking you in advance.

    Martin

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    In order to start liking opera it is interesting for you to be attracted by the story...Once you know the story quite well and if possible you have a DVD with subtitles and you can follow the action...it becomes more accessible if not pleasant. La Boheme, Aida could be a very good start.

    To be followed.

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    Smile I had an idea....(how to start enjoying opera)

    Well...Martinovsky's theory about how you can stat enjoying opera...


    LOL (This is not entirely serious, but I really think it can work!).

    a) First of all. You have to accept human voice as an instrument...Indeed, many opera non-lovers say that they hate human voice...I'll discuss about this later on.

    b) We can start by a nice ouverture as Carmen...

    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQI5LtRtrb0

    After we can try to solve (a): a nice Aria good for your ears...just to accept human voice a little more...

    Try this, PLEASE!!!!

    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzym2T0CJRo

    I love Renée Fleming and I saw her at the theatre 2 months ago, she's very pretty too.

    If we can't go on, just rewind...listen to 1 and 2 again...

    If we can go a little bit on, listen to this now:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF5QONMTaA8

    But is better to know the story...I'll make it short for you. Carmen is a gipsy who works in smuggling...Don José, a military-peasant is very in love with her and accepts to help her...but she doesn't care and she falls in love with a bullfighter...she decides to leave Don José and he, blinded, stabs her.

    Here she's speaking about love as a free bird...

    Next step...is there a next step? You buy the DVD? and you put the subtitles? while watching it?

    I wish you the best...I'm not guaranteeing you that it works, but I made my best. Good luck. But please follow these steps, you have absolutely nothing to lose.

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    Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alban Berg View Post
    In order to start liking opera it is interesting for you to be attracted by the story...Once you know the story quite well and if possible you have a DVD with subtitles and you can follow the action...it becomes more accessible if not pleasant. La Boheme, Aida could be a very good start.

    To be followed.

    Martin
    Yes, this is how I like to do it. Read the synopsis, watch a DVD with subtitles until I am familiar enough that the CD recording makes sense to me.

    I just got into my first Russian opera, Boris Godunov, and am loving it like crazy. Bought the Gergiev set with both 1869 and 1872 versions. I much prefer the 1869. I also bought two videos, one of the 1869 and one of the 1872. One in the mail, the other I just started watching. I did see it once in the 1980s live, but never came back to it until a couple weeks ago when i watched a You Tube of a production with English subtitles.

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