Ladies and jazz.

ericwood992

ericwood992

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Is it a fact or just my perception that the fairer sex, with one or two notable exceptions, don't appreciate jazz?
 
teddy

teddy

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I have been working hard to encourage my wife to listen to and appreciate jazz. While on holiday I actually managed to get her to listen to The Duets by Brubeck and Desmond, but I think the red wine was partly responsible. She likes strings which are mainly lacking in jazz and professes to not liking the piano????? so I have come to the conclusion that I am on a hiding to nothing. Yes, I would agree with you Eric. (They also have a different sense of humour, but don't quote me).

teddy
 
ericwood992

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Sense of humour, they actually have one?

Seriously though, is it something that CAN be cultivated or is the receptor part of the brain occupied by some other sense in women? There are not many women composers either. Maybe there's a link?

I never found Kathy Stobart (Humph's band) very convincing. Did anyone else?

Billie Holliday though; she was something else!
 
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teddy

teddy

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Unless the music is linked to something enjoyable or memorable I do not think it will work. Linked to a holidy or choclate there might be sufficient pleasure generated to associate the two (choclate/jazz = pleasure) but otherwise I do not think it would work. My wife would just become irritated. She got annoyed with the film STAND BY ME, one of the best adaptions of a Stephen King book. I rest my case

teddy
 
Dorsetmike

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My late wife enjoyed Jazz and accompanied me to concerts. My first wife wouldn't know the difference between a Tuba and a clarinet. I don't think the deep appreciation of any music is widespread among the ladies or the men, obviously there are many exceptionsto this generalisation, quite a few on this forum for starters.

There are a heck of a lot of males who don't apreciate Jazz or Classical as well as females. Lots of people will say they like Music, but what gets most air time, or media attention, not Jazz or Classical for sure. Even on radio stations puporting to be Jazz or Classical there will be quite a bit of rubbish that will make those wince who really appreciate the claimed genre, example being Film music being played on Classical stations, most Film music tends to be nothing more than something to set the mood or heighten the suspense, and often barely musical at that.

Maybe the ladies are less forthcoming in voicing their opinions than we males. Also consider there are quite a few lady performers, the best known being vocalists or pianists but there are plenty on other instruments.
 
ericwood992

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My wife goes along with me to concerts of all kinds. She enjoys the night out, the meal; the occasion! But as far as the music is concerned, as long as it is not too loud she can tolerate it, but she would never put on a classical or jazz CD.

BTW Mike, I have had big problems replying to your personal message today. I hope you have received the last one I sent; this was my fourth attempt!

Regards, Eric.
 
ericwood992

ericwood992

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teddy said:
Unless the music is linked to something enjoyable or memorable I do not think it will work. Linked to a holidy or choclate there might be sufficient pleasure generated to associate the two (choclate/jazz = pleasure) but otherwise I do not think it would work. My wife would just become irritated.
teddy
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This has been my experience throughout my life Teddy. I have had three wives; all three said they enjoyed music when we were courting (and seemed to do so); all three had a total lack of any real interest when we had been married for six months!!!
It's comforting to hear that it's not just me!

Regards, Eric.
 

stu

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Hah! I went about this the devious way. I met my wife in the shop where she was in charge of the jazz section. I thought about my jazz future before being seduced by fluttering eyelashes, rolling in the hay, mini skirts and 'marriage'. :grin: She was also a part time classical piano teacher for a few years. She likes Chet Baker, Gerry Mulligan, Jack Teagarden, Lester Young, Ben Webster, and a lot of New Orleans/Chicago jazz. She has travelled with me to see Count Basie, Woody Herman, The Modern Jazz Quartet, the Edinburgh Jazz Festival, and to London to the Pizza Exprees Jazz Lounge where we saw Spike Robinson and Eddie Thompson, and Ronnie Verrell and Colin Smith, and to Ronnie Scott's and to the 100 Club to see Eddie Cleanhead Vinson.
See! I had it all planned out. :smirk:
But, I am now a henpecked shadow of my former self!!
 

OLDUDE

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Out of about 20 regular attendees of the Art Group (Painting) of which I am a member,
myself and another male love Jazz, one other male and one female profess to be interested,
whilst the remainder couldn't care less. I think that this probably concurs with the views
of the general population.
 
teddy

teddy

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ericwood992 said:
This has been my experience throughout my life Teddy. I have had three wives; all three said they enjoyed music when we were courting (and seemed to do so); all three had a total lack of any real interest when we had been married for six months!!!
It's comforting to hear that it's not just me!

Regards, Eric.
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Eric, I have been married 2 1/2 times (its a long story) with similar experiences.

But, I am now a henpecked shadow of my former self!!

Stu. It is a fact that men marry women in the hope that they will not change, and women marry men in the hope that they will change (and they make b****y sure that they do).

teddy
 
Dorsetmike

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Methinks I've said this before but

"Man spends the majority if his life looking for the ideal woman ... ... in the meantime he marries!"
 
ericwood992

ericwood992

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"Maybe the ladies are less forthcoming in voicing their opinions than we males."

Mike, were you concentrating on what you were typing at this point? You CANNOT be serious!!!
 
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ericwood992

ericwood992

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Dorsetmike said:
Maybe the ladies are less forthcoming in voicing their opinions than we males./QUOTE]

Mike, were you concentrating on what you were typing at this point? You CANNOT be serious!!!

(2ND ATTEMPT TO GET THE QUOTE CORRECTLY PRESENTED!!)
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Dorsetmike

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Eric, as for ladies expressing opinions we all know they can be very good at expressing opinions on domestic, fashion, money and our (male) habits, but that doesn't leave them much time (or breath) for expressing opinions on subjects that matter, like Music. ;) This does not obviously apply to all women, just as the opposite does not apply to all men.

Note to the ladies on this forum, you are the exceptions that prove this rule
 
ericwood992

ericwood992

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Mike, I see where you're coming from now; thanks for putting my mind at rest. I concur absolutely with your note to the ladies in this forum.

Eric.
 
ericwood992

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Love it Teddy!!!

NOW, just to show that I have nothing against the ladies, please listen to THIS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25CLkPGv66g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsG_YL-o9ZE&feature=endscreen&NR=1

It's in two parts I'm afraid, and I don't understand why the second part is not showing up as a link, at least on my laptop. I can't find the piano version on youtube in one piece (Don't understand that either!).
This has been a favourite of mine since I first heard it in 1956. It was written when the composer was 18(!!) to much acclaim by Schumann.

I think it should appeal to you teddy.

P.S. Can anyone recommend another site to youtube for sourcing music tracks please?
Thank you.
Eric.
 

stu

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Great stuff John. I have them on CD now but the old 78's are still up in the attic. I takes me back to the forties and fifties when so much of this great music emerged and we were spoiled for choice. as we tuned in, bought our occasional 78 when we could afford it, and savoured every note on the recordings.
Most of it has transcended time. I guess that is the core connatation of the term 'classic'.
 
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