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    Quote Originally Posted by wljmrbill View Post
    i.e. Gloria :I do not recognise it. This would indeed be hard to sing with just the accomp. unless they are very familiar with it and the choir sings well. Something of this nature I would only use for festive services not for routine sunday mass. There are many other Gloria's that are much better than this one for sure.
    One thing good about this cathedral is, we have a very great choir, almost half of them at least went through music vocal training, some of them are from the British time Choir family with the Old RSCM medal.

    The Gloria is the hardest part to play in all the other related pieces, the tricky part is in the second page. But its also from the British period, nice one. Next time i will upload one recording with my poor organ skill playing this Gloria.

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    Glad you have a good choir a definate asset. Guess you have a music director that selects the music too then? Good luck with your position. Practice and you will get the gloria down pat.
    ....To play only what is written is the domain of science. To realize what is not written is the domain of art."
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    Yes, we have a music director to choose the music for every service, usually from the A&M, sometimes other old hymn and some classical hymn for communion hymn. Thanks alot for the information, i have to get use to this GIANT Machine...

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    Knowing nothing at all about Malaysia, I've been digging around. - Info on Wikipedia covers the building and the organ of St Mary's Cathedral in KL. There is also interesting information about the cathedral building on Trip Advisor through the reviews of visitors; photographs too. One (British) visitor says it is very small by English standards and describes it as 'reminiscent of an English Village Church'. It can seat 180 plus 20 in the choir.

    A beautiful building and the organ has an interesting history.

    More photographs on the two websites below:

    http://www.clacklinevalleyolives.com...KLStMarys.html

    https://foursquare.com/v/st-marys-an...f3236af283efa9
    Last edited by Nikam; Jan-25-2013 at 22:37.

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    Interesting history of the organ on your link Nikam. what a quaint small instrument with few stops: but I would guess is o.,k. for the size of the nave.
    ....To play only what is written is the domain of science. To realize what is not written is the domain of art."
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    It used to be a chapel or a small church for the local british settlement and officer.Later on they move to this current larger land and have extended the size of the church, the giant iron screen was place as an entrance before the high altar. A very special stained glass with local early's farmer, tin miner, oil palm and train builder depicting they are working with Malaysia 14 states coat of arm surrounding it ( very little notice this stained glass after the church being extended backward, it used to be at the back of the middle facing the high altar ) A stained glass depicting St Anne and young St Mary is at the small lady chapel with an old wooden painting with Mother Mary, a small good shepherd statue is also place upon the right hand side of the lady chapel. There are alot alot of Old British Gem is in this church, like the Old lady chapel altar, the high altar. All these were full of carving, sadly they are no more being used or very very rare to use them. There are alot of sterling silverware from the British era, very nicely carved ( sadly some of them no more in used ). A set of big pure copper altar cross with 2 candles with gem stones surrounded it ( candle stand were stolen during a restoration of the church from a great flood of the city ).

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    Although its abit our of topic, but if anyone of you would like to visit to Malaysia, im always happy to give you some trip advised, do not try to back pack in Malaysia, always consult a local citizen of the facilities, because it might be a chaos or nightmare when you found out the public transport are not on time which cause you unable to be on your flight back to your own country.

    Do come to visit my church as the Queen of England always will visit our Church first when she comes here, Prince William and his wife was here few months ago. I can bring you around the church and perhaps anyone of you might have some knowledge in determined the problem of the pipe organ. We always welcome visitors !

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    I found that there are some pipe orhan technicians there in your city that might be able to help with the organ.. Goole or yahoo search will give info for you..
    ....To play only what is written is the domain of science. To realize what is not written is the domain of art."
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    Hi Yohanus,

    I love that particular Gloria - I've not heard of it before seeing it here today, but it sure beats out anything our Lutheran (ELCA) Liturgies have to offer, at least imho.

    There are numerous variations of Mass parts that can be used by church musicians. I too have to rely upon some outside sources for music selection for some Sundays, and I did find the Canticanova site to be of great help in my weekly planning for the next weeks services. There is also an online Revised Common Lectionary for each liturgical cycle. Being able to check well in advance of seasonal scripture readings can also be of great help in music selections.

    Sean mentions using improvisations and this would be something for you to explore, learn and use. It comes in very handy, especially when there is an unexpected break in the flow of the service and "filler music" is required - there is no time to grab a book, let alone search through same for something to play. You can experiment around with improvisation on your own (do this during a practice session though) - it doesn't have to be elaborate at first. I usually have to improvise almost weekly in my church setting. I've developed a few of these into pieces - they are in my head at the moment - and I'm working on getting them down on paper.

    The world of the church organist is a very challenging one ... and it can, and does, have its rewards, too. I began playing in church in 1961 - and continue to this day.

    Lars A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krummhorn View Post
    Hi Yohanus,

    I love that particular Gloria - I've not heard of it before seeing it here today, but it sure beats out anything our Lutheran (ELCA) Liturgies have to offer, at least imho.

    ...
    We loves this Gloria, if you are interested to this pieces, perhaps i can share it here one day. Since this is a non profit forum, i believe i can post it pulic here right ?

    Thanks alot for the suggestion, i will dig through all these useful sources

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    When an organist/composer writes down an extemporization (improvisation) on a hymn tune the published work is called a Chorale Prelude. British organist/composers were/are very good at this. In their own way, at least as good as the Germans. Americans too, of course. Most of these kinds of pieces run to 3:00 often longer. I don't think that is what yohanus wants or needs. I think what is needed is an Introduction to the music that is to follow. You want some music that is in the same key as the Gloria and either begins or ends in the kind of rhythm (feel) of the Gloria. It sounds as if you have colleagues and you definitely have a Music Director... tap (use) them for suggestions as to how to fill this time in the service. Good luck.\

    H

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