The good old days.The good old days they just don’t make numbers like this any more h

JHC

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
The good old days they just don’t make numbers like this any more here are 3 versions of:

Bei mir bist du schoen.
An original version by Budapest Klezmer band



Goodman sextet 1937 with Martha Tilton vocal




Pasadena roof orch with a brief appearance of the Puppini Sisters these girls performed some good stuff that my generation appreciate and there is quite a bit on YT
 
JHC

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
What happened to music in general or is it us, even the pop of yesterday had rhythm, melody and vocalists actually sang, have we become too set in our ways or is todays music in both pop, jazz and classical just mainly rubbish
 
Dorsetmike

Dorsetmike

Member
I feel the same way Colin,
rhythm, melody and vocalists actually sang
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As a general rule I think things started to deteriorate around the 60s and by the 80s very little of what I would term music was being written in any genre; that is not to say that NO music is being written these days, just not a lot, and most of the good stuff gets lost in the cacophony of dross.

I find it is not only music that is suffering, but all forms of "art" and entertainment in general. In literature much if the stuff that gets raved about I find either very heavy going, or meaningless drivel, ditto with visual arts, painting, sculpture and video (film and TV)

Much of the blame can be laid at the door of the media catering to the masses of "couch potatoes". Some numpties make names for themselves as experts or critics and the masses believe every word they say, hence more dross gets foisted upon us. I no longer watch TV and only listen to the radio for about an hour a day - mealtimes and while reading in bed.
 
teddy

teddy

Duckmeister
As I like to explain to my kids, in the old days kids would buy an instrument because they wanted to emulate their heroes. In the case of pop this was usually a guitar. They would try and copy the music from the radio or records. Maybe get together with a friend or two. There were coffee bars, milk bars and youth clubs where they could hone their skills before moving on to dances and clubs. Because so many musicians where self taught only the better ones tended to succeed. There where no manufactured "stars" like there are now.Add the fact that nearly all instruments were acoustic (partly because of the cost) and you ended up with music, rather than just a row.

teddy
 
JHC

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Teddy, Acoustic sure does sound better and you have to know your instrument to get the best result you can't just add something by turning a knob or .......... no I won't say what I was going to no point in offending half the members, and Mike is right in our days there was melody to each number be it pop jazz whatever + harmony and a beat these thing are in very short supply to day even in the classical world, it's almost as if all the melodies have been written and it's too hard to think of a new one so just sexy looks and noise will suffice. also kids have now become so used to poor quality audio via mp3 players and now Youtube that they have not a clue what decent sound adds to listening pleasure.
 
John Watt

John Watt

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I could very easily join this dialogue, agreeing and seeing deep musical insights to explore.
But I only want to add that you have to separate what is media and what are performing musicians,
to find the difference between computer generated product for digitals and actual music.

My computer sound isn't working today, so I don't have a chance to listen, but that's not why I'm here either.
I'm going to comment about Budapest and being Hungarian, specifically Magyar Hungarian.
I recommend listening to "The Song of Hungary" to understand far more, words included.

The oldest known Mediterranean writings are cuneiform, markings on clay tablets fired like pottery.
The oldest known writings, some thinking civilization, is the Sumerian empire,
the Epic of Gilgamesh being one of the oldest writings of mankind.
It even talks about the giants that used to walk the earth,
as in the Holy Bible, over 3,500 years old, and the Bhagavad Gita. over 4.500 years old.
Sumerian tablets are very well preserved, but no-one could read them, until
Magyar Hungarian tourists saw them and started reading them to everyone's amazement,
that language still a living language for them.
People with deep cultural ancestries, and I hope you know your own, are usually culturally deeper,
why this music is still being played, over there.
Wanting to redefine rock bands for the human dance element is part of my new band's mission.
 
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John Watt

John Watt

Member
Dorsetmike! What's with corny lyrics, when these are socially relevant songs and we're still listening to them?
One of my favorites from my parent's collection,
more of a scat singing muted trumpet thing using words more than trying to tell a story, is

"The House of Blue Lights", written by Don Raye-Freddie Slack, as recorded by Chuck Miller,
the B side to a big ballad (Can't Help Wonderin') written by Chuck Miller.
ASCAP 70627, Mercury, (YB 11634) made in Canada by Quality Records.

"They got fryers, broilers, aluminum pots and pans and all the tools and the tricks of the trade,
so if you've got to spend the rest of your life, you should spend it in the house of blue lights".

I uh, really don't know more words to this song that my parents brought me up to,
but this fifties 78 rpm looks and sounds new, Dorsetmike, and maybe we can make an online deal. Me 2 U. Good 1!
Yes, there are sentiments involved, just like all those muted trumpet sounds.
Mom and Dad said Uncle Beeninya could only visit when he was feeling good enough to get out,
and when he got out he liked to visit for a last home-cooked meal and listen to this record,
before he had to go back in. He got everybody crying, even if we didn't want to.
It also comes complete with a deteriorating Victor Records (RCA logo) sleeve,
"The music you want when you want it", another graphic entertainment of a different kind.
I'm not naming a number because you'll probably offer me more than I would ask.
 
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