from Youtube to MP3, brilliant

Contratrombone64

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OK - so I have been ignoring YouTube mostly as I have "assumed" that the content is mediocre. Wrong! There are, if I look hard enough, some very fine performances given AND in high definition.

I have discoverd a website that will convert a YouTube movie's sound track to MP3 and I'm in heaven.

Hope it's ok to share this link here? Mods delete if I'm being recalcitrant.

You simply find your YouTube "movie" using your BROWSER (not your YouTube app) and then copy the URL thingumy and paste it into:

http://2conv.com

The reason I like THIS one is that it will handle movies of any length, most others have time limitations.

David
 
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Krummhorn

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Hi David,

I'll have to give this a try ... thanks for sharing :tiphat:
 

JHC

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David, I am surprised that you class mp3 @ any bit rate "high definition" but if you are playing back via a PC, i Pad or mp3 player then it is adiquite also if you want an off line converter from video to mp3 file then "Any video converter" is a good tool it also converts to many formats is free and easy to use you can load any number of files, go to work and all is finished when you get home
 

wljmrbill

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I use the youtube downloader my for mp3,mp4 etc and has various other file formats to use also. Free also.Works well for me I do download to computer first then transfer to mp3 player from there. version 4.0.301
 

JHC

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Bill, That would work perfectly as mp3 was made for just that sort of thing but mp3 through a HiFi set up ain't so good however I have d/l many YT videos converted to MPEG and then transferred to either a usb stick or a CD RW and watched on the TV and as my TV produces the worst sound imaginable the mp3 even as low as 192kbps works OK.
 

wljmrbill

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true.. I forgot to mentioned that I run the computer through a stereo surround sound system after that too.. give s a much much better sound then just sing the mp3 player
 

JHC

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Something I forgot to mention as well Bill is another free program called 'Audacity" which has more whistles and bells than 'Any video converter' but is a bit harder to use I am just working out how to download with it.
 

Dorsetmike

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I use Audacity to remove the snap crackle and pop from vinyl when transferring to CD, also handy when needing a 59 second "exerpt" to post here and for changing formats.

The other good use I find for it is frequency shifting, some instrument samples only have 4 notes per octave, Audacity can shift up or down and save to get a full octave
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
The other good use I find for it is frequency shifting, some instrument samples only have 4 notes per octave, Audacity can shift up or down and save to get a full octave

I thought you would join in Mike I am not with the above statement could you expand just a wee bit
 

Dorsetmike

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The sample sets used by, for example, Grand Orgue take up quite a lot of megabytes, getting the samples or downloading or sending them can take quite a while, so instead of sending a sample of every note, they sometimes sample 4 notes of each octave and distribute the "condensed" sample set, the user then has to shift each of the sampled notes up and down a semitone at a time and saving the results to produce a full octave. If you start with 4 notes, you need to produce a further 8 notes; from C you get B and C#, D# > D & E, F# >F & G A>G# & A#.

If you are downloading all the pipes of a large cathedral organ or a full orchestra's worth of samples, (for strings you would have bowed and plucked notes, brass muted and unmuted etc) that comes out at a heck of a lot of gigabytes. I've done it for a few instruments, flute, violin, tuba and others; they can be used in Grande Orgue instead of, or as well as, organ pipes. I have recorded some of John Stanley's sonatas using flute and harpsichord samples which works quite well.

Get your orchestral samples here for free

http://sso.mattiaswestlund.net/

The samples are in sfz format which is text plus .wav no problems extracting the .wav for Audacity.
 
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JHC

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I am still not with you Mike what are samples and why not use FLAC?
In my simple world I download all music as FLAC which is at 1141kbps and a sample rate of 44.1kHz as per Redbook for CD although I am not a die hard lover of the Organ (sorry folks) I have quite a few Organ works at those specs and they all fit on a std CD 700MB, so I think we are on different pages.

OK I just realised what you are on about,
a virtual Pipe organ :grin: way outside of my interest sphere.
 
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Dorsetmike

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A "sample set" for an organ would be a recording of every note of every pipe, each usually between 2 and 5 seconds duration. The VPO has a definition file written for a sample set, from which it can identify which note sample to "play" when a key is pressed or a MIDI signal received.

Quite a few electronic keyboards now use sample sets insteads of tone generators.
 

JHC

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Do you have to connect you Keyboard to the computer to play it?
 

Dorsetmike

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Yes, using a MIDI connection - if your PC doesn't have a MIDI connector you can get MIDI to USB convertors. There are quite a few users that have gone so far as to build a PC into an older electronic organ and add a pedal board in place of the more common 12 pedals that some had.

The other alternative, which I use, is to "play" it from a MIDI file either using Notation software or a MIDI editor or player programme. There are quite a few ways of generating the necessary MIDI files apart from downloading MIDI files, a programme to convert downloaded PDF scores to MIDI, these usually need further editing/cleaning up using notation software, or you can enter notes/compose using notation software which can output or save MIDI.

Notation software enables you to enter notes, (copied or composed) either from a keyboard or with your mouse, onto onscreen pages of music staffs or to edit previously saved files, you can then print out, or save in one or more formats, MIDI, MusicXML, its own format, or output to a MIDI keyboard
 

JHC

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[FONT=&quot]I am a bit lost here Mike as to what you are downloading I can understand a score being d/l but I don’t think this is what you are doing is it something similar to a piano roll that you load into the virtual organ so that it plays itself ? [/FONT]
 

Dorsetmike

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Many scores are available as PDF files which would normally be printed out and used as sheet music, however there are apps to convert to MIDI format which can be used to control electronic keyboards, play notes, set volume, tempo and other effects. In some respects I suppose you could liken a MIDI file to a piano roll but with more "bells and whistles". MIDI Commands are allotted hexadecimal values, example Note on is 0x90 yyzz, note off 0x80 yyzz, where x denotes one of 16 channels (for an organ the channel number could define the manual or pedal) yy defines the note number 0-127, zz is defined as "velocity" and can control the attack time or level.

Other commands can control switches or sliders, adjust tempo, volume, pitch and most of the other things found on electronic keyboards.

MIDI can also send data from an instrument to a controller or computer. MIDI files can also be edited on a PC.

When notation software generates a MIDI file it will include things like crescendos, diminuendos, tempo changes etc. Similarly when a MIDI file is imported to notation software this data should also appear. As can be expected the process of converting PDF to MIDI is not always perfect, nor is importing the resultant MIDI file to notation software, so I usually work with both the PDF and notation page on screen, and do any corrections needed, definitely quicker than reading the PDF file and entering every note by hand!
 

JHC

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[FONT=&quot]I am still struggling to understand so if I have got it right it imitates the various stops on a real Organ which your keyboard does not have but still require you to actually play the keyboard so you still need to be a musician. Am I getting nearer? [/FONT]
 

Dorsetmike

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Yes a musician can "play" Grand Orgue with a MIDI keyboard, the sample set used will contain .wav files for every note of every pipe, when you press a key a MIDI "Note On" command is generated and sent to Grand Orgue which outputs that note for as many stops as are selected. If you have more than one keyboard/manual and pedals then each will send commands on a different channel.

Grand Orgue uses MIDI commands, it doesn't really make any difference to G O where the commands are generated, keyboard(s) or a file on a PC.

If you run a MIDI file on a PC without G O it will usually play the sounds of the instrument (which will be defined by the MIDI file) through Media player using the "Wavetable synth built into Windows.

I can hear you say why go to all this trouble? Mainly because not many people have space for all the pipes of a large organ, nor be able to afford one anyway; the nearest one can get to the real thing is a Virtual pipe organ,

As well as the free sample sets available on the web, you can buy a sample sets for many famous organs including Salisbury Cathedral organ which goes for about £800, it comes in 3 volumes total about 20Gb. You also need Hauptwerk which is another VPO that costs money, not free like G O.

When Salisbury cathedral's organ was out of use for a month for maintenance they used a console with Hauptwerk and a Salisbury sample set, they also ran a few other sets as well.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Right ............ I shudder to think what size speakers you would need :grin:

I must add that I have finally cracked the means of downloading via Audacity it is so simple when you know how, the main thing is to set up your PC first then it is automatic when you open Audacity. either radio stations, pod casts or YT if its coming through the computer you can d/l and save file, having said that I really won't use it much but its nice to know the old grey matter is still working.
 
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