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    An outsider’s view of the American Election.

    I have just watched on TV the address given by Bernie Sanders at the Democrat convention and at last I have worked out what the Democrats stand for.
    I am amazed that he was not chosen as the candidate he speaks much better than Hillary and the values that he is championing seem to lean more to the socialist view, If I was a US citizen I would be voting Democrats.
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    Bernie has, imho, lots more credibility than the other candidates. Even though he is not going to be on the ballot in November, I'm still writing his name in on my ballot. I refuse to waste my vote for either of the other two.

    Yes, we do need to have a woman in the White House ... it would be good for this country ... but that woman is not Mrs. Clinton. Condoleeza Rice would have made a much better person to have in the oval office. We had several years with a Clinton ... that as enough, for me ... and I voted for Ross Perot that year.

    The media is already claiming so and so has won the election ... but the opera ain't over until the fat lady sings, and that Aria is not going to be sung until November 9, 2016. Until then nobody has won anything ... nobody. The media needs to stop broadcasting the same blather over and over and over again. It's tiring.

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    They said over here that Labour would win. They said we would vote Remain...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Watt View Post
    . . . The Electoral College, who validates the presidential vote, is controlled by Republicans and Democrats.
    So no-one else can win.
    Not quite ... the Electoral College awards whomever gets 270 electoral votes the job as president. If neither major party gets 270 then there is no automatic declared winner. I am hoping that a write in candidate from Utah will garner enough votes in his state to totally upset the Electoral College outcome. Utah can stop either Clinton or Donald from getting the required 270 votes.

    Since Bernie did not consent to be a write in candidate I decided to vote for the candidate from Utah ... a Republican, but a far better person for the job than the other two dooshbags, imho.

    The US will be in a world of hurt and political wars if either Don or Hill get into office.

    Locally there is already buzzing about who is running on the 2020 ticket ... yeesh ... what's next candidates running then for 2024 and 2028 and then 2032 ...

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    I was a bit surprised that a serving President can can enter the fracas and show support for a candidate.
    Hill or Don what a choice may as well not vote.
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    I agree about the running of the electoral college ... but ... if neither major political candidate achieves the required 270 votes then other laws and regulations come into play, and there are watchdog groups of other minority political party affiliation that will assure that the process will be done according to the constitution.

    If the favorite from Utah sweeps his state, that will block both Don and Hill from getting the minimum 270 votes to be elected president.

    What happens next is this:

    If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. For example, all of California's 53 representatives would have to vote among themselves to decide how to cast their one overall vote.

    And further: The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House. To add insult to injury the Senate can select a Republican VP to serve with a Democrat President ... and vice versa. They would be forced to work together.

    Far fetched scenario .. but it can happen.

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    I can see a revised version appearing of the letter reputedly from John Cleese (of Monty Python fame) on the election of Bush which started

    To the citizens of the United States of America, in light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

    Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II resumes monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories.
    If your sense of humour allows you to laugh at it, the full item it's here

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/revocation.asp
    Last edited by Dorsetmike; Nov-05-2016 at 13:30.
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    How many roads must a man walk down ... ... before he admits he's lost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
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    If your sense of humour allows you to laugh at it,
    ... good one. And yes the whole election scenario here is a joke. Two of the absolute worst people possible on the face of the earth and one of them stands a good chance of being elected our president for the next 4 years. Spells doom for our nation no matter who gets to sit in the oval office. I, for the record, did not cast my vote for either of those dooshbags. I did vote, but for a write-in candidate from Utah, who if he wins that state guarantees that neither of the two other idiots will get the necessary 270 electoral votes to become president.

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    Sympathy and condolences to America on the election tragedy.
    Cheers MIKE.

    How many roads must a man walk down ... ... before he admits he's lost?

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    Now some top artists in the pop world will honour their promise to leave America but where will they go?? we don't want them.
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    Did I hear it wrong or did Obama say he would leave America if Trump had a win.
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    Probably not the only one, I did hear the Canadian immigration site crashed.
    Cheers MIKE.

    How many roads must a man walk down ... ... before he admits he's lost?

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    I bet you that not one of em leaves, it must have been embarrassing for both of the Obamas having to actually talk and be civil to our Don and wee Melania, what are those things that get stuck in your throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
    Sympathy and condolences to America on the election tragedy.
    Thanks, Mike. But we will have the lesser of two evils ... although I did not vote for either dooshbag. Sadly my presidential write-in candidate from Utah did not take that state as was projected.

    We would have been better off with Sanders being the Dem's nomination, who has not yet ruled out 2020 as a possibility.

    Very rotten options for the voters this time around ... total garbage offered to the people to vote for.

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    Seen on another forum :-

    We heard Trump wants to build a wall on the Mexican border, but we reckon the Americans will still find a way to escape!
    Cheers MIKE.

    How many roads must a man walk down ... ... before he admits he's lost?

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