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    Hello Everyone, just joined the forum

    Hello Everyone, I am a new member from US. I am joining the forum to learn, discuss and share all things music, especially classical and Jazz. I wanted to start with sharing the following video of a young musician showing incredible ear training skills-

    https://www.facebook.com/guitarprasa...=2&theater

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    Wow! I got off, or at least de-activated myself with, Facebook, because it's too predatory,
    and this must be my first encounter with the newest version.
    I clicked the link and it showed me the page with the photo, what could be a You Tube video,
    but then it flashed into a new page that wanted me to log in if I wanted to see any more.

    I'm wondering about a young musician showing incredible ear training skills.
    As a very young boy, maybe twelve or fourteen, is he teaching ear training skills?

    When I was traveling in bands as a lead guitarist-vocalist,
    sometimes I'd be sitting around during the day with a keyboardist.
    We'd be using effects to make our instruments have different sounds,
    and we'd take turns hitting notes and trying to guess what it was.
    Considering the depth of effects it got difficult, but it was good practice.

    I also used to practice standing there with my eyes closed, my head turned away,
    reaching out for a fret or a barre chord where I would want to start a song.
    That also included using Straplocks so I could toss the guitar around.

    And no, I never ever sat onstage when I was playing,
    so I didn't develop any rear training skills.
    Last edited by John Watt; Jan-22-2018 at 18:25.

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    Couldn't agree more, Facebook appears to be a bit of hurdle with changing its behavior every so often. Sorry about that. The Facebook login screen can be bypassed by clicking on the nearly invisible blue colored "Not Now" text below the bright green box "Create New Account" box. Due to image file size restrictions I am unable to upload an illustrated screenshot of the login page.

    The boy in the video is identifying purely by ear, chords, both classical triads and advanced Jazz chords, inversions, and single notes and intervals. He is identifying chords in an exact manner and nearly instantaneously. I plan to post this in a sub-forum to invite more discussion on the significance of such a skill for a growing musician, and for established musicians. I am attempting to learn about this aspect of music.

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    Embedded video

    Trying to post the video again. My apologies as I am learning the ropes here.


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    Welcome to the forums. Look forward to your postings.
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    I'd like to comment on my Facebook experience before I get into the You Tube presentation.
    And in my real life, I am only known for being only open and honest all the time,
    even if it is just being polite, diplomatic or political to not be telling all the truth.
    My use of online and the telephone resulted in corporate policy changes for Bell in Canada, for one example.

    Just trying to see this video with the first link,
    has resulted in Facebook putting it on my Mozilla Firefox search page as a "popular" video.
    When I clicked that white arrow, the same thing happened that happened here.
    And that's showing the photo here, and before I could begin to see what the photo is,
    it flashes and is gone, back to the link, and on my Mozilla page, covered by a Facebook field of font,
    that wants me to log in to see it, or create an account to log in and see it.

    Thank you for embedding the video here. It only justifies my initial impressions.
    My first thought is that next week, it will be a seven year old Chinese girl who is doing this,
    only she's sitting in front of a symphony orchestra that also incorporates Japanese five-scale pieces.

    Even with just a flash of a view, I was saying 12 or 14 years old, and this boy is 13.
    Here, with you embedded video, I just watched for the first under thirty seconds.
    Thank you for explaining the rest of the content.

    What would make any musician more impressive than what is displayed here,
    would be if he was jamming along with other musicians who are playing all these notes, triads and chords,
    and adding more musical content, especially if it was exciting to listen to.
    Whether or not he's dancing around or making moves or using props or backdrops,
    is the difference between a show-band player and just a band.

    Too bad this boy is wearing a USA t-shirt. If that's his ambition, his life doesn't stand a chance.
    He can only aspire to return to his homeland a broken and penniless man.
    Hey! I'm from Ontario, near Niagara Falls, and I can say with statistical evidence,
    that there are now more Indians from India than there were native "Indians",
    when the white man first came here.
    You might see American society in terms of your English experience in India,
    but there's a heavy French influence in both Canada and America,
    and that's a duplicity that you aren't going to see coming, and you never can.
    At least in America you aren't caught legally between the bilingual English and French.

    If there's one thing that I would really have got off on about this presentation,
    and am I saying it could be rehearsed, or am I typing that it could be rehearsed,
    but he should have Geronimo or another famous American Indian on it,
    that would really be making a cool statement.

    I wouldn't encourage this fixation on identifying only with an acoustic piano,
    because with all the electronics of the venues over here, even in public schools,
    acoustic pianos don't sound like acoustic pianos, all the electronics sounding weaponized.
    By the 1970's, public performances were being described as industrialized sound,
    and that's before digitals and computers came around.

    That really was why I put that reference in about the multiple keyboards and the fingers of Frederik Magle.
    Sure, I've seen him using a synthesizer, and sharing email with other Danish musicians who knew him,
    told me that he has an extensive musical background, not just conservatory classical.
    But being the musician he is, actually playing, actually being a performance and live musician,
    he's not putting up overdubbed and multi-sampled and edited musical presentations,
    he's using an instrument and his fingers to create the sounds he makes.

    However, the traditional organ is built with stops that are meant to re-create the sounds of other classical instruments.
    You might be able to say the cathedral organ is the first instrument that uses samples to create music.
    But somehow, the thought of many people working bellows to pump that air through those tubes,
    takes it all away.

    I honour your intentions as a teacher or father.
    Reading the Bhagavad Gita, the Upanishads and many Vedas, is as important as the Holy Bible.
    And coming from a descendant of the clan that brought you the Holy Bible in English,
    that's a dire commendation and a real statement of life, as much as font can allow.
    Maybe, as a teen, I should have started trying to memorize that,
    so I could put up a You Tube video with me reciting it, the only man in the world.
    There are Sons and Daughters of the Gael who speak Gaelic.
    Bay-an-uck let, blessings on you.
    And not to be a downer, but this is the slowest I've even seen these forums,
    and this is the only music domain I visit, and the only music forums I log in to.
    So for sure, I'll reply to any reply you make.
    With what you are presenting, if you want a more predatory, and authentic American experience,
    you should try Harmony Central, the oldest and biggest music forums in the U.S.A.
    I would turn down the first offers for this child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wljmrbill View Post
    Welcome to the forums. Look forward to your postings.
    Thanks for the welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Watt View Post
    I'd like to comment on my Facebook experience before I get into the You Tube presentation.
    And in my real life, I am only known for being only open and honest all the time,
    even if it is just being polite, diplomatic or political to not be telling all the truth.
    My use of online and the telephone resulted in corporate policy changes for Bell in Canada, for one example.
    Thank you. Another book of wisdom different from Bhagavad Gita informs that wisdom is discerning the truth and accepting it, no matter by whom it is spoken.

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    Accordingly I am bound to discern the truth and accept it.

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    I truly appreciate what you are saying, and can only express it in different ways.
    The Holy Bible, that my mothers' clan system translated into English to bring down the Holy Roman Empire,
    describes living with the truth as being on the straight and narrow.
    Here in Mohawk land, the Niagara Peninsula, they say as straight as the crow flies.
    All North, Central and South American tribes have the crow or raven as a creation or restoration myth.

    My friend Avtar, a northern Indian of Egyptian ancestry, says to say hello. I told him about your video.
    He's the father of a businessman I do business with, very tall, about 6'4".
    We were watching a TV episode I think was called "Being Indie", about a young Indian girl in Toronto.
    She's a fast talker and speaks Proper English when most English don't.

    I'm thinking, for you, to say don't be shy, and that's a forum request.
    Please, let us know about your views and any replies, comments or requests,
    so we can share your experience, and have more to type about.
    This is the slowest I have ever seen these forums, so this is more for me.
    As a dedicated follower of the as-yet-untitled Frederik Magle,
    I can't imagine looking at or logging in to any other music forums.
    Members here have presented a great sanctuary for me during difficult times.

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