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    Steeleye Span - Two Magicians

    I love the way the beat comes into this ballad, one of my favourites. And the fiddle is fab - Dave Swarbrick?

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    Dave Swarbrick is someone I really admire - may he rest in peace.
    I love the sound of his 'electric fiddle', but it ruined his hearing and in the end he left Fairport Convention and went back to acoustic fiddle.

    Information here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Swarbrick
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    Here's a favourite piece which treats a classical music favourite in the style of an Irish reel.

    The arrival of the Queen of Sheba in Galway Bay - DeDannan

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    Then there's Scottish Folk Rock - here's Shooglenifty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ella Beck View Post
    Here's a favourite piece which treats a classical music favourite in the style of an Irish reel.

    The arrival of the Queen of Sheba in Galway Bay - DeDannan





    I had that played at my wedding, but not this wonderful fiddle version you posted here, I love it. It would have been lovely too at the wedding.

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    'Scarborough Fair' by Simon & Garfunkel - yes, it's a folk song, but given slightly hippy treatment and popularised by the Dustin Hoffman film 'The Graduate':

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    Here's music that is at the boundary of art music and folk music, 'Lord Gallaway's Delight', by that fabulous group Les Witches. It's wonderful.

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    Another piece by Les Witches where Folk meets Baroque.

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    This sounds as if it's an old time American tune but it was written in the late twentieth century. It's at the heart of the Ken Burns film about the American Civil War, which I've just finished watching - so tragic, and yet so fascinating.

    Ashokan Farewell by Jay Ungar:

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    A wassail with electric guitar - folk music that isn't, quite, by Steeleye Span -

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    Child Ballad with lots of arty guitar - folk music that isn't, quite -

    Five Hand Reel - The Bonnie Earl of Moray

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    A chilling traditional murder ballad, 'Lamkin' (Child 93), given an extra eeriness with some electric guitar riffs.

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    This is one of my favorite YouTube videos of all time.
    Before I had access to my own computer, I'd ask other people to play it for me.
    When I started crying, everyone thought it was Bruce and his song that got to me.
    It was, in a way.
    Me asking other people to play this song on their computer meant I was homeless,
    being reduced to poverty by all the criminal activity against me,
    after I ran for mayor as a protest candidate to complain about being a victim, family and friends.

    In 1970, I was backstage at Brock University, and ended up standing beside Bruce Cockburn.
    That's when Bruce was driving across Canada in his camper pickup with his wife and dog.
    "High Winds and White Skies", his double album as an acoustic guitarist, is still a favorite.
    Someone called out, John, how does it feel to see someone else playing guitar like you?
    It got quiet. Everyone was watching Bruce turn and stare at me.
    I said if I can play a steady bass beat and finger-pick like an acoustic guitarist,
    then an acoustic guitarist can finger-pick and play a steady bass beat.
    Bruce got a big smile on his face and turned back to keep talking with the professors.
    He also came back the next year, but I couldn't make it. I had my own gig.
    Knowing we shared that moment in time, knowing what bands and stages I left behind,
    and seeing what my life had become, is the real reason I would start crying.
    I still do. He uses some phase shifting and echo for his solo here, totally tasty.
    And you really can't get a better introduction than this.
    Bruce went to the Brazilian rain-forest as an environmental activist,
    and when they told him about American intervention in Guatemala,
    he went there and wrote this song.



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    Quote Originally Posted by John Watt View Post
    This is one of my favorite YouTube videos of all time.
    Before I had access to my own computer, I'd ask other people to play it for me.
    When I started crying, everyone thought it was Bruce and his song that got to me.
    It was, in a way.
    Me asking other people to play this song on their computer meant I was homeless,
    being reduced to poverty by all the criminal activity against me,
    after I ran for mayor as a protest candidate to complain about being a victim, family and friends.

    In 1970, I was backstage at Brock University, and ended up standing beside Bruce Cockburn.
    That's when Bruce was driving across Canada in his camper pickup with his wife and dog.
    "High Winds and White Skies", his double album as an acoustic guitarist, is still a favorite.
    Someone called out, John, how does it feel to see someone else playing guitar like you?
    It got quiet. Everyone was watching Bruce turn and stare at me.
    I said if I can play a steady bass beat and finger-pick like an acoustic guitarist,
    then an acoustic guitarist can finger-pick and play a steady bass beat.
    Bruce got a big smile on his face and turned back to keep talking with the professors.
    He also came back the next year, but I couldn't make it. I had my own gig.
    Knowing we shared that moment in time, knowing what bands and stages I left behind,
    and seeing what my life had become, is the real reason I would start crying.
    I still do. He uses some phase shifting and echo for his solo here, totally tasty.
    And you really can't get a better introduction than this.
    Bruce went to the Brazilian rain-forest as an environmental activist,
    and when they told him about American intervention in Guatemala,
    he went there and wrote this song.


    So this is one of your favourite videos ever?

    I presume what makes it special is your personal reminiscence, rather than its musical qualities, which seem nothing special to me.

    It certainly qualifies as 'folk music that isn't' - but not as 'folk music that isn't quite', the title of the thread.

    It's just a modern protest song played with an acoustic guitar - so not folk at all!

    The format is far too rambling to be considered as 'in the traditional style'.

    You spend a bit of time analysing the guitar playing, so maybe you should have posted it on one of your guitar threads?

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    PS - I read your post about private-messaging another member. You're not supposed to reveal the content of private messages on the open boards, you know.
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    I thought his use of electronic echo for the solo made it not quite folk music.

    You might have to cut me a little slack when it comes to all my fonting.
    You seem to be an instrumental musician who doesn't sing.
    If you sang, then words would not only become important,
    but song-writing might have some responsibilities as a human being alive on this earth.
    And you have to admit, not bad for an old man.
    Dan Ackroyd, "Saturday Night Live", "Ghostbusters", "The Avro", was born a half hour away from me,
    but I didn't talk about him. He was there just to introduce Doctor and Honourary Professor Bruce Cockburn.
    I can understand where you're coming from, in England, while this is very Canadian for all Canadians.
    I still got tears in my eyes.
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