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    Looking through the old posts on MIMF brought to mind Thomas Hardy's poem, 'Friends Beyond'.
    WILLIAM DEWY, Tranter Reuben, Farmer Ledlow late at plough,
    Robert’s kin, and John’s, and Ned’s,
    And the Squire, and Lady Susan, lie in Mellstock churchyard now!

    “Gone,” I call them, gone for good, that group of local hearts and heads;
    Yet at mothy curfew-tide, 5
    And at midnight when the noon-heat breathes it back from walls and leads,

    They’ve a way of whispering to me—fellow-wight who yet abide—
    In the muted, measured note
    Of a ripple under archways, or a lone cave’s stillicide:

    “We have triumphed: this achievement turns the bane to antidote, 10
    Unsuccesses to success,
    Many thought-worn eves and morrows to a morrow free of thought.

    “No more need we corn and clothing, feel of old terrestrial stress;
    Chill detraction stirs no sigh;
    Fear of death has even bygone us: death gave all that we possess.” 15

    W. D.—“Ye mid burn the wold bass-viol that I set such vallie by.”
    Squire.—“You may hold the manse in fee,
    You may wed my spouse, my children’s memory of me may decry.”

    Lady.—“You may have my rich brocades, my laces; take each household key;
    Ransack coffer, desk, bureau; 20
    Quiz the few poor treasures hid there, con the letters kept by me.”

    Far.—“Ye mid zell my favorite heifer, ye mid let the charlock grow,
    Foul the grinterns, give up thrift.”
    Wife.—“If ye break my best blue china, children, I sha’n’t care or ho.”

    All—“We’ve no wish to hear the tidings, how the people’s fortunes shift; 25
    What your daily doings are;
    Who are wedded, born, divided; if your lives beat slow or swift.

    “Curious not the least are we if our intents you make or mar,
    If you quire to our old tune,
    If the City stage still passes, if the weirs still roar afar.” 30

    Thus, with very gods’ composure, freed those crosses late and soon
    Which, in life, the Trine allow
    (Why, none witteth), and ignoring all that haps beneath the moon,

    William Dewy, Tranter Reuben, Farmer Ledlow late at plough,
    Robert’s kin, and John’s, and Ned’s, 35
    And the Squire, and Lady Susan, murmur mildly to me now.

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    However, in the last few days, some longstanding members have begun posting again.

    I just wish there was a 'like' system on MIMF, as there is on Talk Classical and Facebook, so I could say how pleased I am.
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    Looking at the numbers viewing - I'm the only member on MIMF right now - there are only one or two reading the general discussion forums, and only 9 reading the classical music forum, but 73 reading the Pipe Organ Forum.

    I think this is MIMF's core value to the internet and that even if the forum doesn't recover, the Pipe Organ Forum will be a useful Internet Archive.
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    A few more people have started posting on MIMF - generally to post music for me and others to enjoy.
    I like to listen to what they've shared and post a message of appreciation.
    It is very nice to have these threads, and we have some talented musicians on this forum.

    There still don't seem to be many threads where members conduct a sustained conversation, however.
    On all the other forums I belong to, that is a given.

    So what's going wrong here?

    I think readers will form their own conclusions, as have I.

    I still think relevance is the key.
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    I think the same things apply to conversation online as they do in real life.
    This link says it all:
    https://u3asites.org.uk/gtyarmouth/home

    In real life it's polite to listen to what someone is saying - online, it's polite to actually read their post.

    In real life, people won't want to talk to Fred if every time they have a conversation, Fred ignores the topic and twists it just to tell them about what he likes, what he's doing, his family background etc. The same online.

    In real life, if someone asks his friends to listen to a tune he's learned to play on the piano, and most of the people listening think it's great, but Fred jumps up and says it's not half as good as six or seven versions by well-known artistes & that the people who liked it must have no taste - well, how rude is that?
    And the same online.

    In real life, people take turns and there is an exchange of ideas, rather than long monologues from one or more people talking. Online, people generally don't read long screeds.
    I apologise for this one.

    In real life, if there are people who don't follow the conventions of normal discourse or conversation, people avoid their company.
    Online... - hey, go figure.
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    I am glad that some more people have come onto MIMF over the Christmas period. Of course, many more are needed before the forum becomes viable. But in the absence of genuine conversation - will they come?
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    A hilarious example of what can happen when conversations go wrong.

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    Have just had a look at the viewing figures. In December, I thought they were a bit better, but they've reverted to their usual measliness in the New Year.

    It was nice to see a post from our Administrator, Krummhorn, yesterday, thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ella Beck View Post
    I quote from a poem The Listeners by Walter de la Mare. A mysterious horseman calls at a house that he'd promised to visit, but there's no reply, though he senses that there are ghosts listening.

    The poem concludes -
    ....he suddenly smote on the door, even
    Louder, and lifted his head:—

    ‘Tell them I came, and no one answered,
    That I kept my word,’ he said.
    Never the least stir made the listeners,
    Though every word he spake
    Fell echoing through the shadowiness of the still house
    From the one man left awake:
    Ay, they heard his foot upon the stirrup,
    And the sound of iron on stone,
    And how the silence surged softly backward,
    When the plunging hoofs were gone.


    That's how I feel about MIMF.
    I've just discovered the video.

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    Another poem that reminds me of MIMF, though the real answer to this riddle is 'an egg'.

    In marble halls as white as milk
    Lined with skin as soft as silk
    Within a fountain crystal clear
    A golden apple doth appear
    No doors there are to this stronghold
    Yet thieves break in and steal the gold
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    Here's another poem that reminds me of some of the exchanges on MIMF, where people see & read only what they want to, not what's there!

    Old Woman, Old Woman, wilt thou go a-shearing?
    Speak a little louder, girl, I'm very hard of hearing.

    Old Woman, Old Woman, shall we start a-washing.
    Speak a little louder, girl - don't mumble in that fashion.

    Old Woman, Old Woman - shall we go a-walking?
    Speak a little louder, girl - or what's the use of talking?

    Old Woman, Old Woman - shall I kiss you dearly?
    Thank you very kindly, girl - I hear you very clearly!
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    Nothing wrong with a little girl kissing her grandmother that I've ever heard.

    You must have a funny computer if it thinks that my reactions to your unasked-for and often uncivil posts are 'malicious'.

    It reminds me of the French proverb - 'This animal is vicious; when it is attacked, it defends itself'.

    Now, @John Watt, I must ask you once again to stop addressing me out of the blue and telling me what my life is like, what things are like in the UK, or how I think - it's always, actually, inaccurate.
    You don't know anything about me, and you have no idea what makes me tick.

    I shall keep off your threads.
    If you must post on mine, then please would you keep it impersonal & relevant to the OP? Thank you.

    Good day, and goodbye.
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    Just to make it clear - I joined MIMF to talk about music & to meet up online with people of good will who are seriously interested in classical music.

    Life is too short to engage with anyone who isn't.

    I've noticed a few great new posts about music coming on MIMF in the last few days, and that's very welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ella Beck View Post
    This site still has historic value for those who are interested in the specialist forums, particularly Pipe Organ & Progressive Rock.

    While MIMF remains, I shall read and post on it, as courteously and relevantly as possible, ignoring ill-mannered remarks, but happy to engage with anybody who posts in a civil and pertinent manner.
    I'm very glad that Bill is back and has been posting some fabulous organ music videos.
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