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    Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler Corno Dolce's Avatar
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    Hi Argoth,

    Thank you for calling me on what I said about *O Mensch, Bewein...*
    I shall try to put it as simply as I can: Since JSBach was not only a learned musician but a Theologian as well - he had a copy of Martin Luther's Bible in which he heavily pencilled in notes in the side margins - He fervently and prayerfully sought out how to, through music, share the Gospel of the Living God. Through mankind's ignorance, the bliss and beauty of creation is destroyed. But through Faith in the Son of God, all can be made well. Bach the theologian/musician, for example, through the Passions and Sacred Cantatas quotes the Bible text which he then explains through music. Like an orator who uses different devices in order to convey the message, Bach does so through music.

    In re to *O Mensch, Bewein...* when you listen and study to how JSBach "tells a story" through the melody and harmony of the piece, when you contemplate the meaning of the title of this work, Bach calls attention to the Crucified Christ, who was sold-out by Judas for thirty pieces of silver. What a ghastly treachery!!! Modern-day man is equally guilty of treachery. Bach calls on us to *Bewein* = Bewail our treacherous sin and nature.

    As an aside to this, I read the works of Søren Kierkegaard, an existentialist philosopher who knew human nature well. As a musician, I am indebted to the mastery that JSBach had in music and in theology. Furthermore, I must inform my thinking with the existentialist school of thought through Kierkegaard. Kierkegaard wished that humans would individually question themselves on their own actions and ethics - where they themselves stood - independantly of others. Let me close this reply with one of my favorite quotes of Kierkegaard: " People demand freedom of speech in order to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

    Humbly,

    Corno Dolce

    Btw - I highly recommend that you read the tomes about JSBach which are written by Christoph Wolff. They will equip you to better grasp JSBach and the Timeless message he shares with all.
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

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    I will still have to say that my all time favorite is Jesu joy of man's desire.
    I love that song.
    judy tooley

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    Thanks Corno, a most insightful explanation. I'll be sure to look up some of those books. I am vaguely familiar with Kierkegaard, but have not had the time to delve into his writings due to school work. With the break next month, sounds like a good way to keep me occupied.

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    Hello Argoth,

    Kierkegaard is no easy read. Probably a good one to start with is entitled "The Concept Of Irony", then dive into "Either/Or" and let that be followed by "Eighteen Upbuilding Discourses". A capstone reading to complement the previous three books would be "Purity Of Heart Is To Will One Thing".

    After you've finished those I will gladly share which ones should be next. I would be amiss if I did not mention that Kierkegaard was highly critical of the Lutheran Church in Denmark. He felt that the message they promulgated on Sunday mornings was anything but Christianity.

    Cheers,

    Corno Dolce
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    Quote Originally Posted by methodistgirl View Post
    I will still have to say that my all time favorite is Jesu joy of man's desire.
    I love that song.
    judy tooley
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    I love this song too. I have played it a lot of times. But do not forget it is not an organ song but a song from cantate 147. The real "Jesu joy of man's desire" must be played with organ and choirs. Like me, you have played organ transcription. Some transcriptions are very good, others very bad. What is very important is to use a transcription in which the 3 against 4 rhythm of the accompaniement is not lost. That is what makes this music so nice.
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    musicalis - is spot on, Cantata 147: scored for solo trumpet, strings SATB choir plus continuo

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    Toccata and fugue in d minor, of course!!!

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    My favourite is also the Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, even though it is a little clichéd!

    Closely followed by:

    Passacaglia and Fugue in C Minor
    Prelude and Fugue in B Minor (I have a wonderful video recording by John Scott Whiteley - especially when he uses the 32' Posaune for the last few bars!)

    Daniel

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    Toccata, Adagio and fugue in C major is also beautiful. I like expecially the adagio.

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