Double-Keyboard Piano
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methodistgirl
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Yes there is such a thing as a janko grand piano. I saw one at the
Stephen Foster memorial in florida. It has keys like a typewriter and
plays like a piano. The instrument can either be confusing or very
easy.
This museum was full of unusual instruments like that.
They had double keyboard pianos, player pianos, one like Beethoven
played and more. There was only one pump organ in the whole
museum full of different pianos of different types.
judy tooley
Stephen Foster memorial in florida. It has keys like a typewriter and
plays like a piano. The instrument can either be confusing or very
easy.
This museum was full of unusual instruments like that.They had double keyboard pianos, player pianos, one like Beethoven
played and more. There was only one pump organ in the whole
museum full of different pianos of different types.
judy tooley
Corno Dolce
Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
I've never understood how the Janko keyboard is employed although I've seen videos of people playing them - seems real easy - so easy that it makes me wonder why it was never adopted by the pianomakers.
I guess that they had already refined production of the keyboard as we know it today so that any change would be atrociously expensive for them. But the more people that know Janko, the more the demand and thus a market is born for Janko and the pianobuilder who captures that market will make a nice living until others jump on the bandwagon.
So really its more than just initial price - its about competing values...
Here's a site with an electric Janko keyboard:
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...o+keyboard&svnum=100&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=N
I guess that they had already refined production of the keyboard as we know it today so that any change would be atrociously expensive for them. But the more people that know Janko, the more the demand and thus a market is born for Janko and the pianobuilder who captures that market will make a nice living until others jump on the bandwagon.
So really its more than just initial price - its about competing values...
Here's a site with an electric Janko keyboard:
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...o+keyboard&svnum=100&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=N
Corno Dolce
Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Hi NEB,
Excellent follow-on question dear sir. Hmmmm - I'll do a google query on "Pianography".
Excellent follow-on question dear sir. Hmmmm - I'll do a google query on "Pianography".
NEB
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Hi Corno Dolce,
It was more left open to ponder than seek an actual answer. I would suggest that whatever we came up with as a suitable answer to such a conundrum would at best be lacking in substance or depth, and be pure conjecture.
I'm currently working on the problem of what if during the reformation, the protestant church hierarchy had gotten their own way and had managed to dispose of all organs as being the work of the devil. What course would music have taken and how would it's developement have been effected?
Now I'm presupposing that Buxtehude would have been unable to work, Bach would never have been appointed to Leipsig or travelled to visit his tutor of the moment. Where would we have been artistically?
The answers I can surmise are grim indeed.
It was more left open to ponder than seek an actual answer. I would suggest that whatever we came up with as a suitable answer to such a conundrum would at best be lacking in substance or depth, and be pure conjecture.
I'm currently working on the problem of what if during the reformation, the protestant church hierarchy had gotten their own way and had managed to dispose of all organs as being the work of the devil. What course would music have taken and how would it's developement have been effected?
Now I'm presupposing that Buxtehude would have been unable to work, Bach would never have been appointed to Leipsig or travelled to visit his tutor of the moment. Where would we have been artistically?
The answers I can surmise are grim indeed.
Corno Dolce
Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Hello NEB,
Thankfully, it was only a small group of heterodox protestants who wished to ban the organ from the Church. Don't go after the whole hierarchy.
Cheers,
CD
Thankfully, it was only a small group of heterodox protestants who wished to ban the organ from the Church. Don't go after the whole hierarchy.
Cheers,
CD
Corno Dolce
Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Hi NEB,
Your apprehension is duly recognized and noted dear sir. It would have been a very long and extended dark period in Music History. Music might not have been as fully developed as we see it today. I'd almost wager that we would not know what Jazz is if it were not for the development of music in the protestant church.
Cheers,
CD
Your apprehension is duly recognized and noted dear sir. It would have been a very long and extended dark period in Music History. Music might not have been as fully developed as we see it today. I'd almost wager that we would not know what Jazz is if it were not for the development of music in the protestant church.
Cheers,
CD
NEB
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Yes indeed I think you may well be right there. But Jazz developed independantly of the church didn't it? Curiously, in the early periods while church music did have a large influence probably due to patronages etc. It was not the only force at work. Suppose that the church had not been a patron of music. Might not those wealthy burgers have been more itnerested in picking up some of the strain at least?
Certainly we would not have had many of the great works, but might not some of the great musical talents still have been musical talents but their work rather different in nature?
Or maybe they would stamp out all but the basest of musical offerings perhaps? Perish the thought...
Certainly we would not have had many of the great works, but might not some of the great musical talents still have been musical talents but their work rather different in nature?
Or maybe they would stamp out all but the basest of musical offerings perhaps? Perish the thought...
chromaticism
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What a fantastic piano! Octave scale runs become a breeze with that fourth pedal plus crazy intervals that seem impossible or difficult in a conventional piano can be done easier. It's amazing that you can expand your piano techniques with the double manuals. Is it possible to get one made inexpensively?
Corno Dolce
Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Hello Chromaticism,
Theoretically, yes - one could get an inexpensive one made.
Practically, maybe - if enough people twist the arms of the digital piano makers we could even see triple keyboard pianos with a full 32-note pedal keyboard. I'd be the first in line to purchase one if one were offered.
Cheers,
CD
Theoretically, yes - one could get an inexpensive one made.
Practically, maybe - if enough people twist the arms of the digital piano makers we could even see triple keyboard pianos with a full 32-note pedal keyboard. I'd be the first in line to purchase one if one were offered.
Cheers,
CD
chromaticism
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Hi Corno Dolce,
I also saw this piano with a concave keyboard in one of the sites mentioned here. In theory, a concave keyboard is ergonomic as it would take advantage of the natural axis of the shoulders (meaning big intervals and leaps would need less reach and less leaning over to the right or left sides). It's good if people would consider making concave keyboards plus that concept of a dual manual. If I had the money, I probably would have commissioned building such an instrument.
If my memory serves me right, I think some manufacturers have tried building pianos with pedal keyboards albeit little commercial success. This makes me think that the piano might one day, in the right minds, become closer to becoming an organ in itself. :grin:
I also saw this piano with a concave keyboard in one of the sites mentioned here. In theory, a concave keyboard is ergonomic as it would take advantage of the natural axis of the shoulders (meaning big intervals and leaps would need less reach and less leaning over to the right or left sides). It's good if people would consider making concave keyboards plus that concept of a dual manual. If I had the money, I probably would have commissioned building such an instrument.
If my memory serves me right, I think some manufacturers have tried building pianos with pedal keyboards albeit little commercial success. This makes me think that the piano might one day, in the right minds, become closer to becoming an organ in itself. :grin:
Contratrombone64
Admiral of Fugues
Looks like a musical push-me-pull-you, eh? LOL
Contratrombone64
Admiral of Fugues
*nods head knowingly at NEB*
chromaticism
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Corno Dolce
Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Hi CT64,
"A musical pushmi-pullyu" - ROTFLMAO :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Cheers,
CD
"A musical pushmi-pullyu" - ROTFLMAO :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Cheers,
CD