What jazz have you been listening to today?

[intet_at_tabe]

hey intet-at-tabe! long time no see!

is this Trane album as mystical as one of the sidemen's name indicates? though John Himself had the spiritual profile to keep a thousand people busy for two or three lifespans, Pharaoh Sanders was also a hell of a man to see and hear. i wish i was there at the time...

pat martino - send in the clowns

Hey back at Ya, Monsigneur sunwaiter :tiphat:

I´ve been abroad twice - first time for honeymoon in London, England and the second time for an international job interview, which I hope I will get. I only came back home to Denmark yesterday late at night.

As for the "mysterious names of the sidemen", not mysterious names to me.

If you go back in the history of the Jazz tenor saxophone, you will acknowledge that COLEMAN HAWKINS used to be entitled: The King of The Tenor Saxophone, which lasted until John Coltrane came about, not to mention two of my personal favourite tenor saxophone players SONNY ROLLINS and JOE HENDERSON.

John Coltrane (tenor and soprano saxophone) was in between Coleman Hawkins and the last two mentioned Rollins and Henderson. John Coltrane stood for a completely free playing, no regards to former tenor saxophone players at all, improvising solos all the time - became his mark in Jazz.

It is not the best album, I have with John Coltrane, but it is significant to the time in the 1960´s, just before the time when Miles Davis, another icon of Jazz changed Jazz in to the Electric Jazz period.

I read your remarkable personal info on who you are? Very appropriate dear sunwaiter, happy to see you´re still posting on this incredible thread at the MIMF.

Do you ever watch the Jazz on the french TV channel - MEZZO???

 

[sunwaiter]

thanks for always giving more historical details!

i don't have TV. as James would say, there was a time when i used to watch jazz 6 ( on channel... 6 ). i like discovering cool recordings on DVD.

i finally saw Roland Rashaan Kirk in the Supershow that gathered buddy guy, buddy miles, eric clapton, jack bruce, john hiseman ( most incredible drummer! ) with his band Colosseum, the modern jazz quartet and stephen stills.

i'm a great fan of black sabbath and i purchased theofficial dvd's, lives from various periods ( paris olympia 1970 to hammersmith odeon 1978 ). But i'm still waiting for some live set put on video where tony iommi plays his jazz thing, because, yes, he could, tough he always remained a "metal" icon ).

i was astonished the first time i saw the dvd reproduced from the video tape baby Snakes by frank zappa. i believe i already mentionned terry bozzio (one more crazy drummer ) in an earlier post. frank zappa delivers his classics of the time ( 1976 ), with lots of talking and lots of silly fills, but also lots of very beautiful guitar things and amazing technique from all the musicians on the set. i'm stiill waiting for the release ( if i didn't miss it ) of the famous Live at the Roxy, that featured really twisted compositions but also super-cool jazz-funk parts, courtesy of chester thompson ( later contributing in genesis ) on drums and george duke (later putting out disco s##t on electric piano. the scandinavian live recordings of this line-up are well-kown by the zappa fans.

these were some examples of dvd i've got at home. i know it doesn't have anything to do with John Coltrane but maybe someday i will tell you about a wonderful trane DVD.

a love supreme!

 

[Corno Dolce]

*Live At Sweet Basil Vol.1* By McCoy Tyner - released in 1989.

 

[intet_at_tabe]

thanks for always giving more historical details!
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Off topic:

My dear sir sunwaiter :tiphat::clap::banana::trp::up::lol::lol::lol::lol: You´re always welcome.

If you haven´t noticed it yet sir sunwaiter: "I´m the slime coming from your TV set", quote Frank Zappa from the album "Over-nite sensation". My spare time interest throughout my adult life, beside my former pay-check inside my half owned 50-50 lobbyist company in Brussels has been history. History as an item, a subject of a person or group of persons like the US-slave union the K.K.K., or a country, slavery or rather sex-slavery these days, the USA being number 1 worldwide as a host country and transit country, with a generel church and christian believers of the same church, where more priests suffer from the violent addiction to pornography, than any other country world wide, who (the K.K.K. caucation race a "White AMERICA" still in the works), or the hidden GENOSIDE of Iraq and the hidden GENOSIDE of iraqi COMPLETELY INNOCENT people.

On this thread HOWEVER about jazz musicians, their biography, in which bands they have played, where they studied, on which record labels they have recorded on etc.etc.

I can´t help it, and worse most of this knowledge have stuck with me in my memory, after first reading it the first time, though I have files at my house and a jazz CD collection, that would make even the Pope in Rome jealous.

I have noticed though that you have mentioned Terry Bozio (drums) and Eric Clapton (guitars) before. Both of them made school for drummers and guitarists throughout the world. Terry Bozio, entitled in drummer circles like Dave Weckl - a US monster drummer, beginning at the age of 17 for Frank Zappa on the album and the concert I attended in Copenhagen "Zoot Alures", please check in at the www.drummerworld.com for videos on Terry Bozio and Eric Clapton as a guitarist born within the blues of The John Mayall Bluesbreakers (England) in the middle of the 1960´s does not need a further presentation. Freaking great blues/rock guitarist with an A + in my book.

Keep it up my friend, you should know however that I attended 7 conserts during the late 1960´s and 1970´s with both Santana and Frank Zappa and the Mothers, 7 concerts equally to each Live performing band. History as a subject or item internationally, always tell the truth of who someone is or whether a people in an nation, know the truth of their own country or not, sourly missed in some parts of the current guilty united nations of states performed economical crises in economics - as a global deseace.

 

[Corno Dolce]

*La Leyenda De La Hora* By McCoy Tyner - released in 1982.

 

[sunwaiter]

hey corno, play me "la busca" , please!

hey intet-at-tabe, you sure had witnessed really great performances... if i may, i will correct a little something: "I'm the slime OOZING out from your tv set"!

i wish i could see carlos and frank at their most inventive, like you did. i was born in 1978 ( year of the disco climax! )and so i deeply regret not being born a little earlier just to see those two fantastic guitarist and personnalities play with their wah-wah's. a friend of mine saw zappa in paris two or three times, and the image that kept coming back when telling me about it was how he started the show without a word, playing "zoot allures" at once, taking everybody by storm ( and you know, those wonderful notes at the end... that's when the magic did take over the audience until the end of the show, i like to imagine ).

frank zappa was one of the artistic and public figures that really honored the US. his italian roots ( by the way, do you have the Francesco Zappa thing? ), his ability to laugh of himself and on human miserable condition, his real independance towards any kind of trend ( i like the "trendmonger" thing in greggary pecccary! ), his love for R'n'B, the distance he seemed to keep always, and the way he put down the guitar when he felt that he had enough made him a very noble person. he was the kind of man that maintain a certain hope, though it's hard nowadays.

back to topic: frank zappa (! ) is on of the rare "rock" or "pop" (!...) musicians who can be found in the "real book", courtesy of his grand wazoo albumn, the track "blessed relief" to be precise. but i really don't care about the real book. the anecdote is all about openness. he just opened doors musically.

i have never listened to any recording of dave weckl, i just know him by name since he's always cited as being one of the most impressive drummers.

as for eric clapton, i always failed to enjoy his guitar playing, but i sometimes loved the way he sang. he always looked strangely calm to me.

buddy rich - west side story suite (1975)

 

[Corno Dolce]

*Trident* By McCoy Tyner - released in 1975.

 

[intet_at_tabe]

Hi sir sunwaiter :tiphat:

You mentioned on another post that one of your friends had attended a Frank Zappa concert, where the Mothers with no particular introduction had played and performed "Zoot Allures", with that very threatening song "The Torture Never Stops", with an incredibly great guitar solo by FZ, and where anyone can hear what a great drummer FZ found in the very young, at the time, Terry Bozio.

My very first live experience in a concert with the Frank Zappa band that used to be called: The Mothers of Invention, quite weird name for an all male band was in Copenhagen 1972, shortly after the release of the Zappa/Mothers album "Fillmore East Live" from 1971, almost at the same time when the american/californian fame in arranging rock concerts Bill Graham closed the Fillmore East concert hall for good.

So when the doors opened to the concert hall, I had never really watched any of the band members close up. The invitation to go to this concert came from a beautiful teenage girlfriend of mine at that time. So what happend was, we - the audience equals 4000 young people - came in to the concert hall, and figured the guys playing music at the stage somehow were some of the crew members tuning the guitars, ya know?

But it were not the crew members. Frank Zappa and the band members wearing Kansas overall blue jeans and T-shirts with long (what seemed) dirty curly hair had begone the concert as soon as the doors opened. They played the entire Fillmore East Live album while the audience were looking for their payed for seats, without a single intermission. It was in those days in the early 1970´s, when the two former lead vocalists Flo (Mark Volman) and Eddie (Howard Kaylan) from the american band The Turtles with their hit single "So Happy Together" were in the Mothers band, and one fame english drummer called Aynsley Dunbar too.

The full Mothers band of musicians in Copenhagen 1972 were:

FZ - el. guitars, vocals/narrator
Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan - lead vocals
Don Preston - mini-moog, keyboards
Ian Underwood - reeds, keyboards, background vocals
Bob Harris - keyboards, violin, background vocals
Jim Pons - el. bass, background vocals
Aynsley Dunbar - drums

So after a very short intermission FZ came back alone to the stage: "Anyone for more rock music?", he asked the audience and the concert hall exploded everybody cheering, using the palmes of their hands.

The rest of the band came to the stage, and then they continued for almost a full hour, again without a single intermission between the individual changing songs throughout second set. Mostly older songs from Hot Rats but also in between playing jazz, like we all have heard it on the Zappa album "Chunga´s Revenge" from 1970.

The strange, but also funny thing for me, is that this particular concert, my very first live performance with FZ and The Mothers that really got me hooked as a fan of FZ and the Mothers, I can remember, having memorised every minute of the entire concert, because the music, the appearence of the band was so different from what came from the english rock scene at that time, and the musicians and the two vocalists Flo and Eddie at times during the second set cracked up in laughter, because obviously to the audience something improvised, obviously very funny, went on at the stage.

FZ, the american self taught guitarist, vocalist, composer, producer and movie director (200 Motels) born on 12.21.1940 in Baltimore, but in 1950 the family moved to California. He began his musical career as a composer of music to B-cowboy movies, but I guess no one else but Frank Zappa in jazz/rock music has given a more personal edited sarcastic portrait of the american society at that time, more straight forward than he did. Frank Zappa in every difinition of the word - a rebel - was someone who simply did not accept any kind of authority, especially not the corupt police force, and he was arrested on severel occations during concerts, like another american rebel, poet and lead vocalist in american rock music Jim Morrison (The Doors).

If FZ had lived today, I am absolutely certain that he would have had something to say about the stupid never ending war and GENOSIDE in Iraq, and possibly Frank Zappa would have laughed at George W. Bush Jr., the same way he laughed at the mentally ill former President of these United States of America, Richard "the dick" Nixon.

 

[Corno Dolce]

*Expansions* By McCoy Tyner - released in 1968.

 

[intet_at_tabe]

On topic:

Joshua Redman on his album "Back East", released by www.NoneSuch.com 2007, the same label Pat Metheny records on. The entire album is dedicated to his late father Walter Dewey Redman (tenor saxophone)

Except for one song "India", composed by John Coltrane the 11 songs have been composed by JR. On the song "India", there is a duet of an older date between the late father of Joshua Redman - Walter Dewey Redman - both playing the tenor saxophone. His father always played the tenor saxophone, never the soprano saxophone, like his son.

The musicians:

Joshua Redman - tenor and soprano saxophone
Walter Dewey Redman or Joe Lovano - tenor saxophone
Larry Grenadier/Christian McBride/Reuben Rogers - double bass
Al Jackson/Brian Blade/Eric Harland - drums

 

[intet_at_tabe]

Joshua Redman on his album "Passage Of Time", by the Warner Bros. Records 2001.

This is a quartet album with some of the personal and musical friends of Joshua Redman, he has recorded and performed with over the pond in Europe as well. All the 8 very different songs composed and arranged by Joshua Redman.

On this album Joshua seems to search for tenor saxophone sounds, never recorded before and then suddenly to move in to a swinging classical jazz ballad, which is quite refreshing for a tenor saxophone player. In a way he reminds me of the english saxophone player John Surman as to the compositions, only John plays the soprano saxophone, never the tenor saxophone.

The musicians:

Joshua Redman - tenor saxophone
Aaron Goldberg - piano
Reuben Rogers - basses
Gregory Hutchinson - drums

Gregory Hutchinson, whom I have listened to before, is a rather new drummer on this level, highly educated at the Berklee School of Music, USA where so many of the latter generation of great jazz musicians have studied. He has a very significant drive riding the cymbals only with his right hand, while playing the drums, the high-hat, snare drum each of the three toms, sitting on top of the kicking drum, and of course, like more new drumers having two bass drums on his right side, whenever taking a run from the left to the right, like another Billy Cobham - an identical copy of the drum set played by the highly esteemed american drummer Paul Motian with more than fourty years of experience playing the jazz drums, who became famous with the Bill Evans Trio in the 1960´s and later in the 1970´s played with Keith Jarrett, Dewey Redman and Charlie Haden in The American Quartet.

 

[Mat]

Radio Swiss Jazz

 

[sunwaiter]

HI intet-at-tabe and anyone reading this!

The turtles had their hit with " happy together", and i like this song very much, but i discovered in one of the numerous funk compilations another one called "i'm chief kamalawalanea" (uhhhh sorry if i didn't type it right). since i didn't know anything else than the first quotedd song, i took it as a surprise to ehar a good breakbeat and party vocals.

another band whose image was more popish is the tremeloes. here again i know virtually nothing about them because i didn't take the time to learn. but some years ago i found their 45 "(call me) numer one. that was the A side. the B side: a ferocious and totally free funky rock track: "instant whip". i found it again on another funk compilation later. i like this kind of discoveries; i liked to mix at little parties and in two bars where i played my records ( i tried to feel what those people in ancient block parties could have felt when they looped beats manually! ). here you can have a hint about my taste for hip-hop, especially the first period in the US.

i was really impressed by aynsley dunbar on the wazoo and other records he participated in for zappa. he had the funky feel i found in gravatt, cobham, miles, and many others with a distinctive style for each one of them.

i discovered bill evans through a 33 i found for nothing, issued on the label mps in 1974, directed by claus ogerman. you may know it already. i have to admit i had some reluctance to get into listening such musicians like mister Evans. maybe because of the intellectual image that is often conveyed, and wich doesn't fit at all my views about music and particularly the one we label "jazz". but i like the color orange, especially the one that is instantly recognized as the "seventies orange", if you know what i mean. so i was seduced by the cover, simply. and of course i saw that there was some electric piano in the set, instrument on wich mister Evans did not build his fame. so i bought it half-blindly and ignorant, and today i can say without hesitaiton that this record is well ranked in my pantheon. just like mister Gismonti, some notes just have a hold on me, emotionally.

thanks for all the fresher musical news, intet-at-tabe! as you well know by now, i'm more into past decades and i hrdly can hear the present. i like the vintage feeling!

 

[intet_at_tabe]

sir sunwaiter :tiphat:, check out this link from www.drummerworld.com:

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/showdown.html

to a video on the three american top notch monster drummers, from left to right:

Vinnie Colaiuta, another former Frank Zappa drummer.
Steve Gadd, who we both love and apprecíate.
Dave Weckl, I have mentioned earlier on, who became world wide famous as soon as, he was discovered by Chick Corea, entering the Chick Corea Electric Band and the Chick Corea Acoustic Trio.

When the video begins, you have DW first, then VC and last but not the least SG, but then they end up playing a trio drum solo at the same time - completely improvised.

 

[sunwaiter]

since i can't get any sound, i won't hurt myself by just watching their movements!

 

[intet_at_tabe]

since i can't get any sound, i won't hurt myself by just watching their movements!

Please sir :tiphat::lol::lol::lol::lol:,

Not so loud . My rebelious computer might hear you. It has made me almost throw it out the window on numerous occations, having so many problems getting sound from various music sites, almost never to be with sound on youtube, myspace etc.etc.

Thank you in advange

 

[sunwaiter]

( whispering) ok... anyway thank you .

miles davis - in a silent way

stanley clarke - desert song

billy cobham - heather

 

[Corno Dolce]

*What The World Needs Now* by McCoy Tyner - released in 1997.

 

[intet_at_tabe]

sir sunwaiter and the other highly intellectual jazz freaks on this thread :tiphat:.

Sorry mate, I can´t help you with the translation from portugese "Coracao" to english nor danish. I can tell you though that Egberto Gismonti because he is 50-50 of indian (Quece indian) and portugese enheretance, often mix the titles of his songs with the native indian language, spoken when Christopher Columbus arrived back in the late 15th Century. The Quece indians, not many left though in Brazil, can be tracked directly back to the Maya empire that covered the entire South America from east to west and north to south.

On this cloudy saturday morning, where the strong western winds (typical for Denmark during autumn) or the resovoirs of the heavens are threatening Denmark with either a storm or heavy rain, let´s listen to the brazilian equillibrist on self-made acoustic guitars Egberto Gismonti on his double album "Sanfona" released by the ECM Records 1981.

CD 1, playing the music composed by Egberto Gismonti for his quartet - Academia De Dancas, where the musicians are:

Egberto Gismonti - 10 string acoustic guitar, piano, indian organ and voice
Mauro Senise - soprano and alto saxophone, indian wooden flutes
Zeca Assumpcao - double bass
Nene - drums, percussion (Nene used to live and work in Paris, France)

CD 2, is all solo by Egberto Gismonti playing - 8 and 10 string acoustic guitars, indian organ, voice.

The songs are "De Repente" - "Vale Do Eco" - "Cavaquinho" - "12 De Fevereiro" and finally "Carta De Amor".

Great album with some of the best known songs, by EG repeated over and over again in various arrangements for solo guitar, solo piano, for a symphony orchestra or a quartet, like on this album - the songs are "Maracatu" - "1o Anos" - "Frevo" - "Loro" - "Em Familia" and finally the title song "Sanfona". Great jazz!

Funny though, before EG became a regular with the ECM Records, he recorded 8 albums on a brazilian label called - Carmo. Somehow EG managed to talk and pursuade the propriator and producer of the ECM Records Manfred Eicher in to, re-mastering and re-releasing all of these 8 albums done in Brazil on the ECM Records. So obviously EG is a firm buisness man as well.

 

[Corno Dolce]

*Whats New?* by McCoy Tyner - released in 1987.