Election 08

Favored Presidential Candidate or Party Affiliation

  • CLINTON, Hillary

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • OBAMA, Barack

    Votes: 8 53.3%
  • McCAIN, John

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • NADER, Ralph

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • PAUL, Ron

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Democratic Party

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Independent Party

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Republican Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Mahlon

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I'm afraid I love my country too much to give my government a break, but I agree with you on this.

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intet_at_tabe

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You don´t have to wonder Mahlon :tiphat:

Europe respect it´s friends, and we have been loyal to the USA for 60 years. We do respect the USA to be the only super power, and we do not want this to change. But loyalty and honesty to ones alieds should go both ways, and we do not need American culture in Europe nor be part of the genoside in Iraq, using middle aged methods brought to Iraq from back home the USA, as always denying what the rest of the world can see, though John McCain certainly could while visiting Bagdad.

7 and 1/2 years with the international clown, the none respected and none influencial compulsive liar George W. Bush Jr. in The White House - is more than enough. We have all payed a price much to big, being lured and lied to into this typical performed war against a none existing enemy of us - Iraq.

A 12 year old boy or girl could have done better than Junior, and Barack Obama has a brain for one thing, responsability and has also shown remorse towards the needless killings in Iraq for another reason, and since he seems not to be connected to the Haliburton outfit of selfish Fat Cats like Dick "I almost killed my friend" Cheney and Donald "only a few sour apples" Rumsfeld - which means Obama is not a member of the corrupt league in the US Congresshe.

Barack Obama is the kind of man we in Europe would support. Not to mention he has a well functioning brain, not a guy born with a silver spoon in his mouth, knowing the USA have to get back in line internationally, if the USA understand the words LOYALTY and FRIENDSHIP.

Here´s a link, you may find interesting about the US soldiers, who have been sent to a war to be wasted. Like the 58.000 American soldiers wasted in Vietnam and 2 million vietnames - all for nothing. Since the USA came to fight communism, but finally had to run with their backs to the bullets, being thrown out of Saigon, South Vietnam, while Americans back home were demonstrating afgainst the war in Vietnam. Except of course another "Wag The Dog" war to economically benefit the US military complex, who can only profit by sending young US soldiers, who will never have a life, to war. Like the American journalist Walter Cronkite reported it from the USA provoked Tet-offensive in 1968 in North Vietnam, history as always for the USA military repeats itself:

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/87235/
 
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intet_at_tabe

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The world in pictures - week 23


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The Democrat Barack Obama applauded by thousands of Americans, when he showed Hillary Clinton the door last week. He looks happy, victorious for all the right reasons, confident in himself and a man of ethics, morals and integrity to bring the USA back to what it used to be, the Great United States of America. That´s why Europe supports Barack Obama propably, if The Lord will, the next President of the United States of America.
 
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intet_at_tabe

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Segregation and diskrimination in America 2008:

Read this article and you´ll see what it means to be without a job, without a place of their own, with no medical or health insurence in the wealthiest country in the world - The United States of America. 47 million Americans like yourselves are prisoners and slaves of not being able to provide for themselves, because of the lack of social equallity.

Anderson Cooper made this report on how hospitals throughout America dumps ill Americans in skid row, when they don´t have medical insurance:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/17/60minutes/main2823079.shtml

Where is the American Dream for these fellow American citizens?




Anderson Cooper Reports On The Practice Known As "Hospital Dumping"

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(CBS) The first rule in medicine is: do no harm. But doing harm is precisely what some Los Angeles hospitals are being accused of when it comes to patients who happen to be homeless.

As CNN's Anderson Cooper reports, the claim is that hospitals don’t like dealing with homeless patients, who are often uninsured and sometimes unpleasant to treat. So they literally dump them on the streets of Skid Row, even if the patients come from other places in Los Angeles, and are in no condition to fend for themselves.

While there have been allegations of hospital dumping for years, people only started paying attention to them because of a videotape recorded by a camera outside a homeless shelter.



The tape shows a 63-year-old homeless woman named Carol Ann Reyes wandering in the street. The pictures may seem unremarkable, but the story that goes with it is disturbing. Reyes had just been discharged from Kaiser Permanente Bellflower hospital where, after taking a fall, she had been treated for three days.

The hospital confirms she was put in a taxi and the driver was told to take her to Skid Row. Why was she wearing little more than a hospital gown? Because the hospital admits they had lost her clothes and sent her away without pants or even shoes. They did, however, give her a diaper.

"The cab came this way. He did a u-turn. Pulled around. And stopped. The driver didn't even get out of the car. The back door opened and this little lady got out in her hospital gown," says Rev. Andy Bales, who runs the Union Rescue Mission, the biggest shelter in Skid Row.

Skid Row is a 50 square-block area home to some 11,000 people, with the highest concentration of homeless in the country.

Asked if he was surprised to see Reyes get out of the taxi, Rev. Bales says, "I was stunned and shocked and frozen for a moment. I couldn’t believe my eyes. She was really confused."

She was confused, investigators later found, because she was suffering from dementia. That shouldn't have come as a surprise to Kaiser hospital officials.

Their own medical records show Reyes was disoriented as to time and place. Her speech was slurred, she had extremely high blood pressure, and a persistent cough and fever. Even with these medical problems, they decided to discharge her and sent her to the streets of Skid Row.

"They’re dumping a 62-year-old woman with dementia in the heart of Skid Row? That’s what’s going on. And it’s shocking and it’s criminal," argues Rocky Delgadillo, the Los Angeles City Attorney.

His office is investigating more than 50 cases of alleged homeless dumping on Skid Row. "These may be the perfect victims. Because a homeless individual dumped on Skid Row disappears into the chaos of Skid Row within minutes. It’s hard for us to find them and then get the evidence that we need."

What should hospitals do with homeless patients? The California Health Code requires all hospitals to make "appropriate arrangements for post-hospital care" and for "continuing health-care requirements" before discharging any patient.

Kaiser didn’t do that in Carol Ann Reyes' case, Delgadillo says. She was sent to Skid Row last March without any medication or instructions for follow-up care.

Asked what it's like down there, Delgadillo says, "Cardboard shanties. It’s a dangerous place, both physically, as well as the drug dealers that congregate on Skid Row, gangs that come here to find easy prey."

"Not the kind of place an elderly woman with dementia should be," Cooper remarks.

"No, in fact, if she’d made it around the corner, she might not be with us today," Delgadillo says.

Carol Ann Reyes is with us today because a worker from Bales' mission rescued her from the street. She’s now under the protection of a court-appointed conservator. She suffers from mild dementia and other medical problems. The conservator allowed 60 Minutes to videotape her meeting her lawyer, but not to ask her any questions. Her lawyers have filed suit against Kaiser hospital.

Before she was hospitalized, Reyes had been sleeping in a park, 16 miles away from the crime-ridden streets of Skid Row.

"Sometimes, individuals end up here that are just released from county jail," explains Deputy City Attorney Jose Egurbide, who investigates hospital dumping cases, and showed 60 Minutes around Skid Row.


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intet_at_tabe

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For a country where the unequallity among ordinary Americans seem to be more the rule than the coincidence, I can´t figure out why anyone would leave Canada for the USA. Besides this America spends more tax dollars abroad in the foreign sovereign countries, never a threat to the USA, than it does on Americans in need of help, thinking of the "small" group of 47 million Americans with no regular adress or roof above their heads, forced in to slavery by the American Dream, like most other dreams it has remained a dream for the millions, who live every day in skid row or as ilegal immigrants working for 1/5 of minimum wages.

The Katrina hurricane a couple of years ago, where it took almost a week to organize help, where the Great White Father in Washington DC, President Jr. went on a sponsor trip to support his own re-election, while thousands of his fellow Americans were in desperate need of help, showed everyone in the USA from south to north and the world, where his personal interests as the President lay. President Jr. the anti-climax of a US President, the worst President of the USA due to the history of this former great nation.

The Katrina hurricane that also showed America and the world that caucation white Americans live in skid row too.

That´s just my two cents worth.

[Regulator Edit: Post merged into this one from the thread "Crossing the Border" as it was irrelevant to thread topic and better suited to this closed discussion (and a personal rant against the US or any other country) topic. Offensive graphic removed as well - the verbal descript was sufficient and certainly the point is understood without additional pictorials]
 
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Krummhorn

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This thread has turned from talking about the 2008 US Election, into an one-sided rant, singling out one country and pointing out all its problems. I think that's enough!!

This thread is now closed.

For what it is worth, I did not close this thread because I am a US Citizen -
I would have taken the same action no matter what country was being constantly singled out like this.

 
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