Prayer for Burma/Myanmar

[Teo]

Praying for the victims in Burma/Myanmar


Love and LIGHT* *BEING, Teo

 

[methodistgirl]

China should always be in our prayers. Even without the disasters.
We should keep everyone in our prayers. The solders at war, people
in disasters, and the sick.
judy tooley

 

[intet_at_tabe]

Praying for the victims in Burma/Myanmar.

From the Danish TV2 News yesterday evening, it seems the military government in Burma has decided to alowe some international aid to enter the country for the more than 2 1/2 million people in Burma in Myanmar, who have been the victimised of this terrible disaster from nature.

Numbers of death people are now up to 79.000 and still 58.000 people are missing according to the Danish TV2 News, who as the first reporters from Denmark yesterday were alowed to enter this area of Myanmar in Burma.

Nature can be unexpected cruel at times, but as we have seen the military governments in the world can be even more cruel. We keep praying all over the world for the lost victims in Burma and the ones who are alive, but are kept as victims without the most nessesary help, who desperately need all the aid, doctoring, medicin and all the attention, we all can muster through political pressure and by praying for the instant help for all these fellow human beings.

Thank you to you Teo :tiphat: for creating this thread.

 

[Contratrombone64]

Mother Earth is indeed a cruel mistress ... overpopulation is often dealt with a swift and unforgiving hand.

 

[methodistgirl]

It goes to show that we are living in the last days.
judy tooley

 

[marval]

It goes to show that we must never take nature for granted. It can be kind to us and it can be cruel. My prayers and thoughts are with all people suffering. I hope that the government keeps its word and lets aid into Burma/Myanmar. There is so much to be done there to ease the suffering, and to rebuild and stop disease from spreading.

Thank you Teo for letting us share our thoughts.


Margaret

 

[Contratrombone64]

It does NOT go to show we are living in the last days, what total nonsense. They said that when the year 2000 approached and all the religious nutters got out there in the druidic outfits and then skulked home with their prides hurt and their religious tailes between their legs.

 

[marval]

I think if it was the last days, the whole earth would have been hit. Some places have been hit but other places have been left to continue.

So that those left can help, the places will regenerate, more babies will be born, and life will go on.


Margaret

 

[methodistgirl]

Burma isn't the only place. We have a member in a situation now that
is not safe. He's close to the volcano that's creating all of the vog
right now. And I happen to be concerned about everybody. I'm not that
kind of christian who will beat you over the head with a bible and say
if you don't do this or that then there will be trouble. Even my neck
of the woods got an earthquake a few weeks ago which made headlines
from Illionis to Kentucky. This sulfur has killed off some of the plants
and is ruining the health of thousands in Hawaii. We will also feel the
impact of that earthquake because it also disturbs the atmosphere.
judy tooley

 

[intet_at_tabe]

It does NOT go to show we are living in the last days, what total nonsense. They said that when the year 2000 approached and all the religious nutters got out there in the druidic outfits and then skulked home with their prides hurt and their religious tailes between their legs.

CT64 :tiphat:

I couldn´t agree more with you on how much crap and frustrations the christian crusadors of the ultra-right-wing-conservatives (typical the Bush admin.) in the USA have spread of neddless fear about the soon-to-arrive-Apocalypse, just around the corner theory, we have listened to since the year 1700.

Aren´t it funny however the contradiction in terms that the same highly christian crusadors, true believers of The Lord and Jesus Christ in the USA are the same ones, who are and think in violence and really want to reinforce the military complex in the USA as to expences, by 3 times over the USA taxes, while 47 million people of their own citizens are left with nothing???

Christianity and Democracy have various implications and methods, but aren´t we as christians supposed to be for peace and equallity and to take care of our own people, before we go to save the entire world???

 

[methodistgirl]

This christian agrees with you 100 %. The church should have been more
kind to all people. The Catholic church used to be vicious. Pope John
Paul II was the only one who said it right and stopped the hate and most
of the Comunism. He was more like the Apostle Paul in the Bible. The
pope they have now is cracking down on these child molesters who dress
up like priest.
judy tooley

 

[intet_at_tabe]

This christian agrees with you 100 %. The church should have been more
kind to all people. The Catholic church used to be vicious. Pope John
Paul II was the only one who said it right and stopped the hate and most
of the Comunism. He was more like the Apostle Paul in the Bible. The
pope they have now is cracking down on these child molesters who dress
up like priest.
judy tooley

Ms. Judy

Why can´t women study to be priests within the Catholic Church? It seems to be condescending to all females.

We have women in Denmark, who are priests within Christianity equally to men.

 

[methodistgirl]

I know what you are saying. Even the methodist church has women
preachers. Why can't the catholic church let women be priest.
judy tooley

 

[Muza]

I dont know - probably biblical role of women? Eve and the apple, all that stuff.

Or in Israel, women are not allowed to show their arms, for example - has nothing to do with women, it has to do with the fact that the men find it provocative and cant control themselves. So maybe that could also be the reason.

 

[Contratrombone64]

I think, and I'm probably wrong here, that the Catholic Church doesn't allow women as clergy because of the original custodians of the faith (that is the twelve apostles, who all happened to be blokes).

 

[Muza]

Ahh, thats an interesting suggestion. Did not think about that.

 

[methodistgirl]

Yeah but Mary Magdaline and his mother were also his deciples.
judy tooley

 

[Muza]

His desciples, not the apostles. And Mary Magdalene was a woman of light behavior, a sinner.

 

[Krummhorn]

CT64 is absolutely correct ... I looked this up and found this tidbit:

Because the 12 Apostles chosen by Jesus were all male, only men may be ordained in the Catholic Church. This was written in the Roman Catholic Canon Law centuries ago.


That said, the Roman Catholic church concedes that women do have some equally justified roles in Church ministry, that of being missionaries, nuns, and sisters. There is a definite difference between a "nun" and a "sister", btw. Nuns are those who are cloistered in a Monastery, while the work of a Sister is in the greater world, teaching and ministering.

 

[intet_at_tabe]

I dont know - probably biblical role of women? Eve and the apple, all that stuff.

Or in Israel, women are not allowed to show their arms, for example - has nothing to do with women, it has to do with the fact that the men find it provocative and cant control themselves. So maybe that could also be the reason.

Muza dear :tiphat: and my very good friend Mat :tiphat:

I completely agree with you. We have to remember that in those days, while Jesus Christ was alive and even thousands of years prior to this event, the history shows that the society was a very macho built society. Women were not alowed to interact for instance in religious discussion, politics nor were women alowed to work outside the family (except prostitutes). They took care of the children from birth to the late teen age years and had slaves to help out cleaning the house and some minor agriculture work, if their husbands were important, even officers with the army.

Male children were what every father wanted first and foremost, this still goes for every other man in our world. :crazy: This is, what I personally find wrong to deny women, acording to the society we all live in today, where ambicious well educated women and feminists have decided years ago that they too have the right to make themselves a career through a long time education, make their own money to support either themselves and a couple of children as a single Mom or support the family.

There are more professors of the female gender today than ever before and more women in the CEC offices in huge corporations and women have fought to be able to represent their local community politically. This is called independence and responsability for the society, we live in and women have this right equally to men also to become politicians and senators. So the Roman Catholic Church, which do not have "any" legal influence in politics any more, do not have the right to deny women, what men have and they will have to change this idea that only men can be clergymen, because of out-dated rules from an old dusty book, written by macho´s.

According to the Bush-league and the ultra-right-wing christian crusadors and the old Testament´s prophecies, women should not be índependent this way. We know for instance that certain cults, but also certain religious groups spread across the entire USA, who believe in A WHITE AMERICA, that they live behind fences far from the cities, or like Waco Texas, or the Jim Jones New Society in South America, that they were ultra-right-wing-christian conservatives, who believe more in the "word" and the old Testament, that God created the world we all live in and that Darwinism - the evolution of Man are crap and a fantasy not approved of by the Old Testament, in their estimation.

Here for these groups,you will find that women mostly have the role of women more than 2000 years ago, at the same time these groups (more than 124 spread across the USA), do not have a regular income, but are highly violent and always are loaded with guns, plastic explosives and any other means and tools of a military attack or defence of their way of life, where all women are basicly 24/7 - mothers and wives.

I don´t believe any woman today having had a life of independence and a career of her own, having fought for the right against men in the USA and elsewhere to be able to vote, would sanction a life back within the four walls of a house or apartment only to be the servant of her man?

We all live in another very modern and progressive society in 2008 and in my best judgement, we can´t keep on dragging on the old ways of life up front. IMHO the death penalty as well as torture are left overs from the Old Testament equals an eye for an eye, equally to the condescending of women, nor is it proper in a modern democratical society in 2008.

I find women in generel more honest than men, and I hate to see from time to time that some women to achieve a career have to be more men than men themself (equals cyniscism) to succeed.

I find all women no matter where they live better judges of most problems in life, and I would love to see 150 of mixed cultures and human skin colour more of them - in the US Congress and in every church.