Crossing the border

[intet_at_tabe]

P.S. Respectfully, we have solved much more when it comes to every single one of those you mentioned, than anybody in the world.

Muza dear

About your incredible dirty industry of addicting pornography, in particular since the invention of the silicone implants industry, which completely revolutionised - the exploitation of women and girls underaged. Now they were not even good enough to show screwing on a bed, they now had to have implants to please the males.

This link is about Christian Women today in the USA - 34 percent is mentioned in this link, women who all consider themselves addicted to the violence and the filth of pornography:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/tcw/2003/sepoct/5.58.html

There´s only one explanation to why your different governments, in particular the republican governments, who are backed by the military complex, who always benefits economically from the guns and other lethal weapons spread the fear among americans - Because it works on the american population. They know from centuries of inhuman attacks on either the native indians, even the american Buffalo and the people with another color of skin, what you now call African Americans, but earlier on had no trouble calling niggers or simply apes.

Remember when they invented the anti-american-activity spying on americans. Joe McCarthy like another transvestite Joe Edgar Hoower, former director of the FBI, both of them addicted to wearing womens clothes and attend weird parties for transvestites. Joe Edgar Hoower addicted to play the dogs as well. His bookie was a member of the mobsters - the Mafia.

Like Jack Ruby, the night club owner in Dallas, Texas, who were owned by the Mafia, because of his depths to the same organised crime, who shot Lee Harvey Oswald, suspected of killing JFK in 1963.

The most protected man in the world at that time, and though 60 police officers were around Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby had no problems getting to shoot Lee Harvey Oswald, and funny isn´t it all the files were censored and classified - can not be seen, nor investigated for 50 years ahead from 1963. The Warren commision was a farce, payed for by the military complex.

We all know today that Lee Harvey Oswald was just a patsy:

www.crimelab.com

You do remember that JFK and his brother Robert was blowing the Mafia in their necks. We also know from 1963 that JFK wanted the USA out of Vietnam, which must have come as a chock for the military industry - indicating no new government contracts, and of course´, we all know what happened to James Hoffa, the union leader of the Teamsters, who disappeared from the face of the earth, never to be found again - the typical mobster way.

In democracies we do not kill our own political leaders, but you do kill the political leaders in the USA. Next in line was Robert Kennedy and then Martin Luther King as a representative for the Civil Rights Movement and rights for all colored people in the USA, shot and killed by a KKK sympathiser.

The USA has the record in the western world of cruelty, visious behaviour, torture, rapes (look to your own crimes rates year by year) and non human approach towards fellow americans and every foreign nation, who do not follow the politics of the USA - also called the United Bluff.

You lost the war on terror from the beginning of the invation of Iraq in 2003, creating thousands of new terrorist according to the international well respected magazine The Lancet. Guantanamo where no prisoner can have a lawyer (against all laws within the USA - No one is guilty until proven guilty???) and your selfinvented by the CIA Rendition program is the evidence of non democratical behaviour.

You´re simply robots, who believe anything whatsoever coming from Penn. Ave. and the Hill, mostly because you treat Presidents in generel as God´s, like the Roman empire did - Cesar was a God, any of them who assassinated the former Cesar, became the new Cesar.

Tom Lehay, Paul Wolfowitch, Kenneth Lay - the Enron clan and modern day criminals in office at the Hill. Tom Lehay republican politician, who embesselled 60 million dollars from the Casinos of the Indian Nations. He was put in charge of those Casinos, I mentioned earlier on. The native indians like the 47 million americans left on skid row and the 13 million haspanichs - all people who can´t be part of the AMERICAN DREAM, but then who cares if you´re sitting in a mansion yourself.

...and yet the most wanted man on planet earth Osama bin Laden is still at large in the only country in the world, you would never invade - Saudi Arabia, his mother country protected by a ruthless islamic guard. Saudi Arabia, who has spent billions of dollars invested in the USA, through the Carlyle Group, owned by former imprisoned mobster Frank Carluzzi, New York.

 

[methodistgirl]

You probably don't know it, but as a white person I am still turned
like Martin Luther King Jr. This is my hope as an American white
that things will change for the best and all of this turmoil and hate
against other races stop before it's too late. God sees what is
going on down here. If I were him I wouldn't be a bit pleased. Such
nonsense that hung Jesus on the cross is still going on now and that's
ignorance, hate, wickedness, and all evil including sin. We are going
to be held accountable for what we have done to our fellow man.
There is no question about it. The bible also said that every knee
shall bow and everyone confess that The Christ is Lord of all. Before
it gets worse we need a president who will stop this hate against
this nation before it's too late or we are heading for far more worse
than Sept,11,2001 and that's my biggest fear right now. I know what
President Bush did even during his first campaign which is the reason
why Al Gore lost. I wanted Al Gore and I still do but he isn't running
for president. President Bush cheated on his first election in 2000
because he had a plot to go to Iraq to assassinate Saddam Hussien.
He used the military to do it. His Treasury Secretary knew what was
going on the reason why Paul O'Neil got fired. Right now it doesn't
matter who it is this time who makes president as long as we get
the right one. Not someone who is angry and has a death wish to
sacrifice someone by the military and our tax money. We need a
president now who will try to make peace with the nations and make
us a nation like we were when president Reagan was in office.
judy tooley

 

[intet_at_tabe]

Ms. Judy :tiphat:

Most Americans wouldn´t mind a female President, only not Hilary Clinton:

http://zamashop.com/nutcracker.html

Typical evil mud spreading politics during the campain, however very funny. Probably the best sellar item of the summer 2008. Like I´ve stated earlier on in America anything whatsoever can be turned into a million dollar buisness. However this one might relate most americans more to her husband: "I never had any sexual relations to that woman.....Ms. Monica Levinsky". Bill Clinton was known for being a womaniser long before he got elected to the presidency of the US, evil tongues said already then that Hilary had crossed her legs.

For those not familiar with american slang. The word "nut" equals "balls" or the testicles of men. Geez!! Being a man, I can easely imagine (almost feel) the pain between Hilary´s legs.

There is another song by Bob Dylan called Times They Are A Changing. That song is so right these days.

You may not know this. But I do. God will forgive you of any sin commited.
That is what Easter was all about. He died on the cross to forgive us our
sins and give us new life. Everybody makes mistakes and we all do things
that we shouldn't.
judy tooley

Ms. Judy :tiphat:

I agree with you to some extend, but the point here is that pornography is addicting and as scientific research show, pornography makes the addictid violent as well.

If God gave us our body the way we were all born, wouldn´t ya think that God would not feel happy that the USA invented the silicone industry, to change the bodies of women, only to satisfy the males.

Bigger breasts, bigger lips, eyebrows, nose jobs, legs, arms, wringles, vaginas etc.etc.

Like a former male star of pornography, now a producer Ron Jeremy said in one of these typical paparazi fame shows: The 100 worst scandales in the USA: We can take any woman at 62 years of age from Boise, Idaho - give her plastic operations with silicone implants, and she will come out of the hospital looking to be a 28 year old chick". He also stated that the whole pornography industry will produce whatever someone suggest, no matter how perverted it might be.

How about group rape equals gang bang in the US slang: 145 men to one woman.

Sick IMHO - and all for one thing. To create more money, earned by perverted buisnessmen with none whatsoever morals, ethics nor integrity. Christians or not.

The only way you can stay clear of the addiction to pornography and evidently the violence that follows - is to not watch it, period!!

I don´t think God approves of this, at least not my Christian God, but then he can´t be the same as your Christian God in the USA, hence my God do not approve of either rape, torture and killing of his children.

"We´re all children of God" - I wonder??

 

[intet_at_tabe]

So to sum this up about the violent filthy produced pornography in the USA, which have been spread to the world, the addiction about pornography and look at the link on addicted Pastors as well, they should not be left out - The entire institution, now we have mentioned all the true believers of christianity, where the christian God seemed to have slept profoundly - in the USA:

http://ctlibrary.com/le/2001/winter/12.89.html



The question to me and your former well organised coalition army covering 28 countries is not - whether you have a violent history, nor an extremely violent culture, nor if your society in the USA as of today is just as violent as it was in the past. The question is more, why you can´t see it and change it?

It cost you the support of the international coalition army, when we first saw the torture in the Abu Graib prison, then learned it was not only at Abu Graib. Then the stories by international news reporters about casual rapes done by american soldiers, trying after the rape to burn the victims in their own houses, having killed them not being able to identify the rapists. Please, don´t misunderstand me, I can easely follow the thoughts of your soldiers, having been told war stories by their fathers and their fathers. Here you are in a muslim country, Iraq. But there are no ordinary bars with billairds and getting drunk, no strip bars or Ecxotic dancing as you call it, no night life - not even a single hooker that can take thheir pressure, so no leasure time like their dad´s had in their day, so.......the internet becomes a "good" friend and sometimes the live-experience in Bagdad somewhere......

With 80 million private gun owners in the USA in 2006, with at least one gun or semi automatic or whatever, you may have purchased in a guns shop or through the US Postal Service after the yearly gun show, it would implicate that as american citizens - you´re in fear. I agree to this. But also this show that you are not a democracy, because in the democracy the police and the courts judge of your illmanered behaviour, not the individual citizen.

As for president Jr. and his prophecies of democratisation of Iraq (this guy must really be an idiot or at least not scollered, since Iraq has a five thousand years old history and culture, not like the USA with it´s 233 years on it´s back, not unnoticed though with all the known child deseaces, the rest of the countries in the world left hundreds of years ago), which only came much later than the Osama bin Laden expression in 2003: "We will hunt Osama bin Laden and his Al Qeada terrorists down and bring them to justice." Only of course he was never there Osama bin Laden, and had your intelligense the CIA and other military dignitars read the lesson, they would have known that Saddam Hussain, when Osama bin Laden supported by the Taliban in Afghanistan, received military support from the USA - to fight against the Sovjet Union. Saddam Hussain in the Arabian League called Osama bin Laden a traitor to the Arabian League. He even issued a jihad against Osama bin Laden, should he ever be found on Iraq territory. But your intelligence did not count this in, there were other issues like the desperately need of the foreign oil of Iraq, that seemed more important.

But President George W. Bush Jr. lied to the entire world of alias - unforgivable, so you have lost the leadership of the western world as well. Two flies with one stroke: Mission accomplished!!

His statement from a carrier wearing the jacket of a pilot: We have prevailed like we siad we would. Like so manay other lies - just another lie. In five years the USA do not even controle the city of Bagdad, which John McCain realised when he visited Bagdad. He was terrified that the information the military command in Bagdad sent home to the US, did not show the real situation in Iraq, nor in Bagdad, where he was protected on a walk in the neighbourhood by more than a hundred USA soldiers and two gunships in the air.

Please remember, if you should try to democratise another country in the future - according to USA stats. - You can not democratise a country and it´s citizens by throwing first bombs to the heads of the people you want to democratise. Secondly use the same evil middleaged methods as the tyrant Saddam Hussain in the name of Democracy - by torturing the civial population (Not in the name of Democracy), keep a gun to the neck of the local iraqis, while they have to vote, after the USA have designed whom can run fore the new parliament, then rape and torture the citizens in Bagdad and other local cities over and over and then repeat, we will democartise Iraq. Perhaps one could teach a monkey this?

Had their been law and order in the USA domesticly, your President would have been impeached by the citizens of the USA for disobeying your Constitution, on War Crimes against humanity and for being a puppetteared puppet chosen by the military complex simply - not to finsih the war in Iraq, but keep it going - to keep up the fear so to speak.

If you can´t be anything else, and you´re a complete jerk, alcoholic, not trustworthy to your friends and alieds, and not being able to succeed else where in buisness, like your own lawyer company for instance or as a CEO in your father´s oil company in Texas, without finding one drop of oil - You can always become President of the USA. :grin::grin::grin::grin:

 

[methodistgirl]

I know that greed plays a major role in all of it. Ever hear love of money
is the root of all evil. People will do anything to make a buck. Sell sex
even of any kind from prostitution to porn. The lottery is another one
that is addicting. I went to the store this morning and two guys were
buying the heck out of lottery tickets. Want to know something, every
one of the tickets were loosers! I have better things myself to spend
my money on than a lottery ticket. Gambling is another evil just like
porn and even certain drugs. Don't get me wrong there are some of
us who need medicine to keep us going like diabities, heart trouble,
and something for us who have high blood pressure. Devil worship has
reached an all time high as well. Look as some of these heavy metal
groups who are involved in this practice. God is not pleased with any
of these things even hate. Abortions are performed everyday. But
that goes back to the day when some civilizations used it to worship the
sun gods and used human sacrifices.
judy tooley

 

[Muza]

Intet, we started this conversation which had nothing to do with democracy, isn't that correct? I believe what happened was you putting forward specific allegations - as to slavery, racism, discrimination, things like that. I believe that it is only appropriate in this case to consider all other countries. We live in the world which not only consists of US - its a compilation of different countries. So yes, I do indeed and will go on saying "look around you before you blame us," because just as i said before - we are not the only ones, and we are BY FAR NOT THE WORST! Pointing out 1 single country and blaming it without any acnowledgement of yourself and other countries makes you a HYPOCRITE whose arguments are not to be considered seriously, because of the lack of serious consideration of the problem. If you are infact concerned about the well-being of humans and preservation of basic human rights, rather than just talking some talk, you would not be focusing on America right now and YOU KNOW IT! But its easier to focus on America, isnt it? I think those are VERY valid point.

You are probably lucky to be living in one of the most independent countries...because not a darn thing depends on you guys :crazy:. We have continuesly covered yours as well as many other behinds and we are doing it yet again ...in Iraq...from islamofashists... you know those people who would gladly kill you and everything that has to do with your western civilization? We did something about that threat, and we will be doing something with Iran, Afghanistan, whatever. But if Denmark would get attacked (which I dont think will ever happen, cause its just not a significant player by any standards), I believe you guys would sit on your behind and sing Cumbaya?

And again, you havent answered a single question of mine, you continue on bringing other issues.
As for democracy, Im afraid we have a very different understanding of democracy. By no means does democracy mean "be nice, dont go to war with Iraq, stop killing Iraqi citizens..." (which by the way we will when they stop killing us). Democracy means "a government FOR THE PEOPLE, AND BY THE PEOPLE" - by no meanst I see that implying anything else other than what it says.

Furthermore, I do see a general change in our government. It actually turned so liberal (beyond the point of my imaginations), that it is turning into an authoritarian government (very slowly, and so far on local levels rather than national - but the fact is a fact). I personally have lost respect for democracy a few times now, and think we are generally headed for a government that is more dictative and involved in one's personal life - which I, of course, find ... uncool!

But that really doesnt change my point - we had a fair deal of problems, which for the most part are now fixed and thats a huge accomplishment. We have fixed and done much much more than anyone else has when it comes to human rights, standard of living, and the list goes on.

 

[methodistgirl]

Intet, you don't have to say no more about that. All this topic is about
is immigration and the treatment of forigen people. I hate religon but
faith in God I do have. Being a Methodist is just a title or church started
by the famous John Westley. I do have my faith in God and I know he
will carry me through hard times and good times. Even when I feel I can't
go on by my own doing he helps me through it. There are many religions
out there. Two kinds of churches,judism which is where the church
really started through Christ,islamic,buddist,and more. As for the United
States, I know that we have a president who makes mistakes and has
a nasty temper. We all make mistakes. There is no telling what this
country would be like if I were president. It might be worse or I would
be trying to make it better. Wether the next one be a woman, black
man, or white, to me it doesn't matter. I know that we pick on Hillary
Clinton, but who knows? Maybe she would be able to prove that she
is a good lady president. She would be the first and I will say to her,
"You go girl!" while she is there. All we have had with this president
is war. What we could use is another President Ford and Reagan to
get this nation back to her former self. I wouldn't care if the next
one is even a Native American to run the nation. That would be cool.
That was all that was over here before our ancesters came over here
on the Mayflower and with Chris Columbus. The reason why some of
them came over was to escape the tyrany of England so that the
puritans could practice their faith but you had those who had a
different idea like today. But like they say what goes around comes
around. After what we all did with the indians it's pay back time.
People from Asia come over here. India,Mexico,Canada,and Europe
are included and us americans don't like it? We asked for it many
years ago when Custer or someone said a good indian is a dead one.
Believe me I couldn't disagree more. I will say a good indian is one
you can make friends and is still alive to help us understand this
piece of land USA is on. That is what this topic and thread is all
about.
judy tooley

 

[Corno Dolce]

What our dear Intet seems to so ignorantly forget is that China and India, each of them have now more cars than the US plus their own industries are ramping up production to meet domestic and international demand and that the people in those countries also wish to have the same standard of living that they see in France, Germany and Scandinavia. Basic laws of supply and demand are easily identifiable now. The internet and other media reaches out with its tentacles to more and more remote villages, towns, and cities all over the globe creating demand for products and services.

 

[Corno Dolce]

Here's some food for thought about supply and demand for oil and how it affects prices at the pump and for the rest of the economy:

http://mises.org/story/2940

Think about the percentage in taxes that are levied on every gallon of petrol.

Think about all the many cars, trucks, and buses in China and India which also consume petrol.

 

[Krummhorn]

Hi CD,

Interesting article ... but they left out the most important part of the "1979 Crisis" or shortage of oil.

There wasn't any shortage - I knew that for a fact and having lived at that time in a coastal state (CA), my travels took me frequently to Long Beach where the oil tankers (at that time) would arrive to deliver the crude oil to the refineries here (at that time). On any given day, there were no less than 7 tankers sitting very low in the water - full to the brim of oil and no place to put it, as the local refinery [Shell] receiving tanks were full as well. It was a pure hoax to get the prices up, and it worked. Once the prices rose up towards 80 cents a gallon, suddenly, overnight, there was no "shortage" of gasoline.

Shell Oil, months later, admitted to having a "glut on crude oil" ... never admitting any hoax ... now Shell is part of Exxon, who is boasting "record all time profits" (the keyword there is "profits" not taxes). Clearly, this is price gouging, and our US government fails to see it or do anything about it ... some of those "all time profits" need to be returned to the consumer in lower pump prices - they (Exxon, et al) will still make a tidy sum in profits, enough to give their executives handsome bonuses, and at the same time, help those same people who helped make them the all time profits in the first place.

Defending bus transportation, as I use to drive those behemoths for a living, yes, they get poor fuel mileage - ~ 5 or 6 miles to the gallon - BUT, when the bus is full, they are moving 51 or so people at one time, and in the same vehicle ... the fuel used wanes in comparison to the scenario of those same 51 people driving their own cars, adding to the pollution, let alone traffic congestion. This is not just restricted to China ... look at all the tour busses in our own country - millions of them - they get the same MPG whether they are full or empty.

I grant you that fuel prices are not the only commodity that has experienced a drastic rise in prices, but we all need that precious fuel in order to purchase the other commodities that we need every day. It becomes a vicious endless circle that needs to stop somewhere, or we will soon revisit the year 1929 ... can't blame the greed on whomever is in the White House ... he only earns about $400k per year in wages ... look how much the president of Exxon makes in comparison and we clearly see who the guilty party really is. The buck must stop right there.

 

[Corno Dolce]

Dear Master Krummhorn,

Might you have looked at the taxes that are levied on every gallon of petrol as per your receipt whan you have purchased petrol? Our Dear Intet yammers on about the *Great White Father* in the White House. You correctly identified that it doesn't depend on whoever is the occupant of the White House.

Cheers,

CD :tiphat::tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:

 

[Krummhorn]

Hi CD,

Well, there will always be two certain things in life: death and taxes .. :crazy:. Average state tax on each gallon of gas is 28.6 cents; federal tax is 18.4 cents ... total ~ 40 cents.

Today, the price per barrel(*) fell $4 (USD) which would translate to a 7 cent per gallon decrease. Did the oil companies roll back the pump prices to reflect the lesser cost to them? Heck no, but they are all too quick to increase it 10 cents when their cost rises 1/2 cents ... nice to be gouged by our own fellow Americans. I truly hope the presidents of all the US oil companies enjoy their newest $20 Million dollar cottages without any guilty feelings ... after all, they themselves never have to pay-at-the-pump, they get their gas for free as one of their "perks."

I think the time has come when this nation needs to say to Saudi Arabia "no thanks - we don't want your oil anymore," ... okay, that will cause some turmoil on our shores and severe shortages of fuel for awhile, but once SA has NO market for their chief export, one would think the prices would fall drastically. I don't see that happening in my lifetime, but when nobody can afford to buy gasoline anymore, those rich oil company presidents will suddenly realize what they did, and may say "OMG, what have we done?" By then, it will be too late.

(*) One barrel = 42 US Gallons

 

[Corno Dolce]

Dear Master Krummhorn,

A full dollar in Fderal, State, and Local taxes for every gallon are applied here.
Oh how I wish that we could say *adios* to Oil from Araby.

Cheers,

CD :tiphat::tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:

 

[Krummhorn]

Yikes That's horrible, Corno Dolce ...
You must be close to $5 at the pumps then ... how is the reaction to that in your region?

 

[Muza]

How do you know, Intet, why women in here are getting breast implants/ cosmetic surgery? You say that the only reason is to please men.

I say - This is called freedom - women are free to do as they please or as they see fit. Men dont force anybody to get breast implants, men dont force anybody to watch porn and get addicted to it - its freedom...sexual freedom.

 

[Contratrombone64]

this has certainly turned into titilating discussion ...

 

[Corno Dolce]

I just had a fill-up for $4.19/gal and a total of $50.00

Prices will vary widely from region to region, state to state, and locality to locality.

 

[intet_at_tabe]

What our dear Intet seems to so ignorantly forget is that China and India, each of them have now more cars than the US plus their own industries are ramping up production to meet domestic and international demand and that the people in those countries also wish to have the same standard of living that they see in France, Germany and Scandinavia. Basic laws of supply and demand are easily identifiable now. The internet and other media reaches out with its tentacles to more and more remote villages, towns, and cities all over the globe creating demand for products and services.

Dear Corno Dolce :clap::banana::trp::lol::lol::lol::lol:

"What our dear intet......". Speaking for the Forum now, are we?

My dear friend, you really made me laugh. Do I sense some light sarcasm here?

Well, you´re always welcome - any time. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Of course the difference to India and China according to American vehicles, are that they do not produce SUV´s on 2,5 tons - equals small tanks, which increases the horsepower for the damn thing to be able to drive at all, but decreases the miledge more than anything else. :grin::grin:

How do you know, Intet, why women in here are getting breast implants/ cosmetic surgery? You say that the only reason is to please men.

I say - This is called freedom - women are free to do as they please or as they see fit. Men dont force anybody to get breast implants, men dont force anybody to watch porn and get addicted to it - its freedom...sexual freedom.

Muza dear :tiphat:

I never discussed "women in here" towards sexual freedom, nor cosmetic surgery, nor women in here to have silicone implants or not? So I respectfully consider your remarks to me misplaced, wrong adress.

However, having read your post thoroughly, my statement was that the industry of silicone implants had a huge revolusionary impact on your american billion dollars industry of pornography, which has nothing whatsoever to do with sexual freedom, hence pornography do not bring freedom to neither males nor females - rather the addiction of pornography shared equally by all ordinary citizens of the USA and true christian believers and the pastors as well, like I showed to you with the links to different websites. That´s the Hypocracy IMHO about relegion in the USA today.

My point being that pornography as a culturel trend has more power in the USA today, than 2000 years of religion - which is the same as Hypocracy, when everyone seems to be a part of this trend and the slavery that follows from this addiction.

 

[Corno Dolce]

Guess what dear Intet - I would never even try to speak for this forum.

The Hummer SUV was maybe purchased by about 1% of drivers in America. I saw quite a few Hummers last year with Danish, Swedish, and German licence plates so don't even try to excuse Europeans. I said Our Dear Intet to Krummhorn because of familiarity. And yes, I was being sarcastic. Oh, China and India produce some really heavy cars and trucks that can be bought by anyone with the cashflow necessary.

Intet, I'm surprised that you didn't know about the porno industry in your own country. America used to import the junk hot off the presses from Denmark and Sweden. So, hypocrisy and Denmark are not mutually exclusive after all :grin::grin::grin:

 

[intet_at_tabe]

Muza dear :tiphat:, you said: "Intet, we started this conversation which had nothing to do with democracy, isn't that correct? I believe what happened was you putting forward specific allegations - as to slavery, racism, discrimination, things like that.", end of quote.

Our individuel concept of a democracy is different.

We started this discussion about mexican workers, who in your own words Crossed the border to have a job in plantations, though the plantation owners never demanded these mexicans to work for them. Up to this point we agreed.

I decided to show you your own history of racism, slavery and discrimination towards anyone else, who is not of the caucation white race - not as alligations towards the USA citizens - much more to the cowardly political leaders of your country (most of them Fat Cats, corrupted by their own greed) - instead as the facts of your own history to show you, that you are as anybody else, what your own history show you to be, indicating why you are as a nation, the most military powerful nation on the planet an as a people 300 million are extremely violent domesticly as in foreign affairs towards other nations.

So let me here thank you for participating, though we will never get to the heart of such a dialog between adults from different countries, simply because you do not respect other people throughout the world, and you´ll keep on defending the President Jr., though he has most definitely broken every one of your own laws due to the Constitution plus every international agreement made since the WWII.

But it does not mean that I personally disrespect you, nor Corno Dolce nor anyone else here in this great forum. We simply exchanged opinions, end of story. I promise, I will not here after reengage in this discussion again, nor in your obviously widely spread addiction to pornography, whether you are a believer in the Lord and Jesus Christ or not, since we both know from the websites I provided for ya all, that it does not matter.

God nor Christianity have nothing whatsoever to do with pornography, and God nor Christianity can´t help you not to become addicted.

Respectfully,

Intet, I'm surprised that you didn't know about the porno industry in your own country. America used to import the junk hot off the presses from Denmark and Sweden. So, hypocrisy and Denmark are not mutually exclusive after all :grin::grin::grin:

Come on, Corno Dolce :tiphat:

You do know this is not true. The difference of course is that we in Denmark gave pornography free by law around 1968-70, because the Danish government and the Danish state at the time said: "It´s not up to the Danish government nor the Danish state to decide, what goes on among legally adults - in their bedrooms.

Not all agreed in this, yours truely for one. But then no one knew at the time about the addiction to pornography, nor how closely it was related to other crimes and sex slavery as a buisness, developed by the USA.

Denmark did not have in 1968-70 a production of pornography. Sweden however had a production of sexual magazines - like Swedish Erotica, which became a huge success in America, simply because sexuality as a form of behaviour and original natural need from birth among the human beings, were not aloud in America, where there are still states in the USA today, which prohibits sexual education in the public schools. Texas for one.

The interest for internet sex and pornography leading to sex slavery in the USA has no majority in Denmark, and frankly never had. But for teenagers and adults in Denmark, we like every other nation are curious about anything that comes from America. But in 2008 the interest, since it is not new anymore, has decreased, unlike in the USA, which is both a host country and a transit country for sex slavery, where americans simply order for a mother and her child to come to America to become a part of the American Dream as an aupair girl, obviously cheeted, because they end up imprisoned in private homes and in controled by organized crime - brothels.

So dear friend - Get your act together. :grin:

Respectfully,

Guess what dear Intet - I would never even try to speak for this forum.

The Hummer SUV was maybe purchased by about 1% of drivers in America. I saw quite a few Hummers last year with Danish, Swedish, and German licence plates so don't even try to excuse Europeans. I said Our Dear Intet to Krummhorn because of familiarity. And yes, I was being sarcastic. Oh, China and India produce some really heavy cars and trucks that can be bought by anyone with the cashflow necessary.

sir Corno Dolce :tiphat: Here we go again.....:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Please dear friend, if you will alowe me one question according to your post?

Which country in the whole wide world regards The Car as means of transportation - as a national symbol, more than the USA? :grin::grin::grin::grin:

Like I allready stated, everything that has been produced in the USA to become a billion dollars buisness will arrive to every other country of the world. Whether we like it or not? You are the masters of marketing. Simply because we used to adore everything about the USA, which in the 1970´s became a trend in itself. In Denmark we have a club for old American cars and of course a club for Ford, Chrysler, Buick, Mustang, Chevy etc. etc., like we have the Harley Davidson bike as a symbol for being a tough guy. There is an American/Danish club of friendship, who meets every summer at Rebild 15 kilometers south of Aalborg, where they all end up singing hand in hand - Amasing Grace, in Danish: Sku´ gammel venskav ej forgå.

So please sir, moderate yourself. We nor I do not hate american citizens or your beautiful country, so please sir: Hold your horses. But we have been lied to by your politcians, your lousy performing military intelligence, the CIA and especially President Jr., and since you as citizens defend your President on his lies and obviously can´t understand that this is a gesture of betrayel to an alied nation - The USA, which do not show respect and loyalty, to their own alieds, break every deal we have made between us for the better of all. We have decided commonly in most of the former coalition forces to redraw from your middleaged torture, rapes and killings of innocent iraqis in a country where Osama bin Laden never has been, which in the first place was why we all joined the United Bluff.

A message to the government of the USA, and against the sceduled republican program www.newamericancentury.com

If you search your memory as a naturalised American, you will remember that one of the things, I really admire with americans, that no other country on the planet can provide are - the ability for chance which the citizens in The United States of America - outside the political mess and corruption in Washington D.C. where all the Popes seem to meet - are your incredible talents to create new things in technology, the Phoenix spacecraft, in medicin or anything whatsoever producable - into a billion dollars buisness worldwide.

Not all items or creations though, are for the better of the human race on this planet. In fact mostly for a very little crowd, who has but one desire and quest - to controle the rest of us - and to create more money than they allready have - in selfchosen arrogance and hypocracy.

www.usforglobalsupremacy.com

Like the Black Panters said about the USA invation of Vietnam: This is not our war (talking for the black former enslaved population).

Respectfully,

Intet, you don't have to say no more about that. All this topic is about
is immigration and the treatment of forigen people. I hate religon but
faith in God I do have. Being a Methodist is just a title or church started
by the famous John Westley. I do have my faith in God and I know he
will carry me through hard times and good times. ..................judy tooley

Ms. Judy :tiphat:

Except for the word "hatred" in the beginning of your great and personal post, I agree with you. My problem is, I have never learned about or have felt the emotion "hatred". My father, whom I loved very much though he had a true love for Whiskey at times, told me very early on about "hatred": Hatred, is not ordinary in Denmark to feel, mostly because we as Danes see it as the end of all democratical verbal and written polite communication in peaceful surroundings. The emotion of hatred, is condescending to the opposite party in any verbal or written discussion, and really points back to the speaker as a jerk. If you meet someone showing this emotion: RUN as fast as you can. - These were the words of my father.

I almost entered the same quote, you have in the last part of your post about Generel "Yellow Hair" equals the sadistic paranoid General for the 7th Cavalry George C. Custer. Actually it was a reporter from a news paper back in Washington, who asked the general this question, on how he would define: A good indian? Which you so honestly entered his answer to: A dead indian.