Israel President Answers On Gaza - The Bit You Never Saw

[Robert Newman]

Shimon Peres, President of Israel, recently answering criticism about events in Gaza at the World Economic Forum. This in response to a highly publicised speech by Turkey's Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Since the Turkish Prime Minister has returned home to huge applause for public condemnation of Israel here is the other side of that debate that the mass media did not cover.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-B7co1bAwuU

 

[dll927]

Did you ever know the "mass media" to be even-handed about anything? Look at the way the spent eight years treating Bush.

Not being either Jewish or Arabic, I sometimes think it's just in their blood not to get along. They don't want to settle anything, and neither side is going to budge an inch. You can read letters and net postings so one-sided that it sounds as if all the world's problems were the other side's fault. As far as I'm concerned, they don't even try to get along. And I don't hold any candles for either one.

 

[Robert Newman]

I believe the events of recent years prove ordinary people everywhere are becoming more and more aware of just how manipulated we've always been in the reporting of news by men who have a hidden agenda. As a general rule both sides of conflicts such as Gaza should be fairly reported and to the same degree if reported on at all.

I am personally more optimistic about the Middle East. There are too many good people in Gaza and in Israel not to be. I believe that, eventually, people everwhere will expose the great number of 'false flag' operations which incite peoples of one nation to hate another without them being exposed as such and which cause such tragedy to their own nations. Since people everywhere simply want to live in peace and security.

Best wishes

 

[dll927]

For Americans, who are (politically correctly) fed the pablum of equality for every being imaginable, and on and on about everybody's rights, it's rather shocking to look at the rest of the world and see how many places have wars and disagreements over the very ethnic and religious differences that we pretend to sweep under the rug.

It sometimes seems to totally escape people that human beings have a natural tendency to congregate among those most like themselves. Many large cities have pockets of people of various national and ethnic origins. Huge surprise, especially for immigrants who may be pretty well innocent of the English language - one of the sore points here in California.

On my mother's side, my grandparents came from Germany, and not as children, either. Mom was the youngest of nine, and I grew up being around all of them often enough to be more than familiar with them. But I never recall any of them using such a term as "German-American". Everybody knew what their roots were, and so what???

Again, I tend to blame the news media for a lot of this stuff. They aren't happy unless they have elections all predicted before they even take place, nor are they happy unless they keep all this crap in everybody's minds. Small wander that they say that lawyers, journalists, and psychologists should all take a long walk on a short pier.

 

[Robert Newman]

Hi there Dll927,

Yes, almost all my friends and I believe the function/agenda of the mass media these days is to act as 'imperial agents' - dividing and alienating people from one another and allowing the rule of their prefered people in the manner of the Roman emperors of old. I finally became aware of the scale of media bias and misinformation after years of TV watching and cut down my consumption of it soon after. Updating myself on news from a number of different sources (considering views for and against the main issues) - most discussed on independent sources and visited by ordinary people who make comments in their own time. People of goodwill and those without seem (to me anyway) the real division to be aware of.

My mother's ancestors came to England from Saxony in Germany (around 400 years ago) and some eventually emigrated in the early 18th century from South West England to New York. One of them married President Adams of the USA (1825-9) and part of my mother's line stayed in the USA - eventually losing contact with the UK branch. I myself was born and raised in Scotland and later came to study and later to live in England. Worked for years in Asia and returned again to UK. Have been back near London for around 20 years. I guess that makes me free of the worst kind of nationalism.

What you say of lawyers, journalists and psychologists is so true !!!! I'd add politicians and most clerics to the list. Thank God there are some exceptions !

Regards

 

[Andrew Roussak]

Did you ever know the "mass media" to be even-handed about anything? Look at the way the spent eight years treating Bush.

Not being either Jewish or Arabic, I sometimes think it's just in their blood not to get along. They don't want to settle anything, and neither side is going to budge an inch. You can read letters and net postings so one-sided that it sounds as if all the world's problems were the other side's fault. As far as I'm concerned, they don't even try to get along. And I don't hold any candles for either one.

I have once talked to a musician who gave a series of concerts in Ramallah in the frames of a German program of cultural exchange with Palestina. He spent there, I believe, about one week, talking with different people. One of his impressions was - it is unimaginable for us living in a modern Europe , how much hatred can be concentrated in one such a small place. On the level of common people, from both sides.

You may want to read the comments to the video on YouTube ( posted by Robert ) left obviously by Moslems and Jews. They are simply terrible.

For what I have read about the conflict - the average age of Palestinians is maybe about 20 - 25 yrs., the HAMAS fighters are mostly 18-20 yrs. young people. You can not seriously expect any weighted decision of a person in such age. Furthermore, the birth rate in Palestina is twice as much as in Israel ( 2-3 children per family in Israel, 5 in Palestina ). So, when the civilians from Palestinian side suffer, these will be inevitably predominantly children and young people, and it only adds more oil in the fire of conflict. In the long run, I am not that optimistic for any happy ending there.

 

[Corno Dolce]

If you want to keep yourself apprised of whats happening behind closed doors across the globe you may wish to consult and become a member of the organization that runs the website linked here: www.stratfor.com

At Stratfor you are freed from the cockamamie reasoning of the lame-stream media and associated pundits, agitproppers, and extreme militant radical fundies of the political parties an affiliated interest groups and action committees.

 

[Robert Newman]

Anyone aware of history (even those who have no religion) know the huge importance of Israel in world events and the role that Jerusalem has played. Most people know that city and that region will be fought over and disputed until the end of time. And that the three largest monotheistic religions regard Jerusalem as their main centre. Israel is, in a very real sense, the ticking clock of world history.

From both Jewish and Arab friends I note that radical elements within the region have done little or nothing to improve living conditions of the Palestinian people over decades. And this situation has been exploited. Little is said of the fact that hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent on this same Palestinian situation. In fact Jewish people have been amongst the largest donators to this situation since the time their nation was founded in the late 1940's. But thousands of lives have been lost. The radicalisation of anti-Israeli groups has occurred. (Much of the money donated and spent has been lost to waste and corruption as anyone honest will agree). And all this has happened in over 50 years despite the vast land resources of the Arab peoples, not one of which have offered to provide Palestinians more land of their own to help them.

Then we have the Jews of Wall Street, these contrasted to the life and experience of most other Jewish people, now settled in Israel. We have also the radicalism known as 'Zionism'. And we have the fact that the CEO's of most major global corporations are appointed because they are Zionists themselves. This fact is lost in the mainstream media where Israelis as a whole are portrayed as being fabulously wealthy etc. etc. Certain of these mega rich Jews of Wall Street etc. have been (for centuries) bankers and financiers of the Vatican and do have wealth which is matched only by that of the world's richest organisation, the Vatican. The Jews of Wall Street have as little care for the ordinary people of Israel as do the Arabs for the Palestinians. They've no plans to live in Israel. The making of money matters more to them. And often they act as 'fall guys' for the evil doers of our times.

Thanks Andrew and C.D. I'm sure the resolution of all this will happen exactly as it is predicted to happen and without help from the outside world.