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Frederik Magle
Sep-05-2004, 16:14
I composed "Rising of a new day" in 1998 for no specific reason other than my own enjoyment. When the oppertunity came in 2000, I orchestrated the piece and gave it to the "Danish Radio Sinfonietta" (RadioUnderholdningsOrkestret) who recorded it for the CD "Light on your path" (http://www.magle.dk/cds.html).

However, this download is not the version recorded on CD! It is instead the original synthesized replica from 1998.
I have never been completely satisfied with the "real" orchestral recording from 2000 - It's not a bad recording by any means, but there was only less than 1 1/2 hour available in total for rehersal AND recording (which was a horrendously small amount of time!), plus I've always felt that the orchestrations I did was lacking in some places (I'm planning on doing a "re-orchestration/edit" when I get some more time...whenever that is...??)

For now I hope you will find the orginal "digital version" interesting:

Click here to download "Rising of a new day" (http://www.magle.dk/audio/frederik_magle-rising_of_a_new_day.mp3)
(4.8 MB - 128 kbps MP3)

corno
Sep-05-2004, 16:52
Hmm... - interesting...
A short "powerfull" piece...
I like the digital sound - what kind of sound module is "responsible" for this? https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I, ehm, don't have my "Magle-cd-collection" at hand, so I can't compare it to the acustic version - any chance you'll be able to post this too? https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif - maybe not "in public" if there's a problem with royalties.

It's generally a little difficult to say much about instrumentation from an digital-audio source only, but in places it sounds a little "too busy" - eg. the oboe/bassoon entrance around 1½ minutes from the beginning... and if the computer has a problem with presenting it precisly "on beat" I'd hate to think of a live recording... heh https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
it's a lovely string and percussive sound https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif
a little reminiscent of a movie score (the beginning made me think of "Pirates of the Caribbean") https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
from around 4.20 it begins to be a little odd - not so cohesive as - not that it' a problem to tell what's what... but it seems like a whole new part is being represented towards the beginning... again a little difficult without the score in front of me...
the accellerando at the end also sounds a little "to busy" - in my opinion that is... - there's no doubt what the idea is - but again, I might be possible to make it more "gracious"... - if that makes any sence whatsoever? https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Frederik Magle
Sep-07-2004, 10:35
I used two synthesizers for this piece: A Roland JV-1080 (sound module) with the orchestral expansion module installed and an old Roland U-20 keyboad with addtional PCM sound cards (for the timpani and clarinet sounds). I agree that the sound is really nice ( https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif) for a synthetic orchestra (even though, I could improve it even further today).

I don't agree, though, that the part from 4:20 is odd, or out of context. It represents a side theme that still fits well with the rest, imo. But you are absolutely right that the accellerando at the end could be much more gracious. As I recall, I had some difficulties making it work back in 98 when I made this recording. However, any further improvements of the piece will have to be in the orchestral score, I think I'll just leave the synthesizer version "as is" for now https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

corno
Sep-07-2004, 10:52
Ah... Roland Rocks!!! https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif hehe...
I'll look forward to the new an extra improved synthetic version someday. https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

As to the accellerando... well, one of the things that strikes me is the tambourine which continues it's thematic/rhythmical part but just at a higher speed which might be somewhat difficult, if not impossible to perform in real life - I haven't heard the real recording yet so I don't know what they did there... but maybe a more simplified rhythm or simply a tremolo/shake would make more "sence", if you know what I mean. https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif - I'll go back and listen to it some more later on.

Frederik Magle
Sep-07-2004, 10:57
Well, in fact I did change the tambourine rythm during the accellerando to triplets in the score, so it was playable. Remember this is not a rendition of the final score...

corno
Sep-07-2004, 14:09
Hmm... - the sound in the real recording is somewhat more welballanced - but the orchestra sounds "too small", eventhough there's a good deal of chorus/reverb it doesn't hide the fact that RUO is a small ensemble... I think it would sound better with a larger orchestra... there's also some distortion on this recording? or is it my output here which distorts it?
The ending sounds very untight at times... - the tambourine doesn't "blend" that well with the rest of the orchestra... do you remember if it was played by hand(s) only or if it was mounted and played by hands or sticks?

theMusicMan
Oct-19-2004, 16:22
Well Frederik... I am not going to break it apart with an in depth analysis... not really best qualified to do that anyhow. Suffice to say I thought this was super. I loved the different scapes running throughout the piece, and the ending I particularly enjoyed.

Whenever I listen to new music, by default (a bad 'by default' I appreciate) I try to envisage what the piece would sound like if arranged for Brass Band... this piece, in my opinion, would go down a storm! Have you ever done an arrangement of any of your work for band Frederik? If you have some spare time available, and you fancy doing something a little different, I think arranging this piece for traditional band might very well be worth a shot...:)

I'd buy it!!

corno
Oct-19-2004, 16:42
hmm... sad to say I actually agree with John on this on... https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif hehe... - Not that I would be the one to boast of my love for brass band music... But this piece could actually work very well with fairly homogenous sound of the brass band...

At the moment we're (Frederik and I) are doing a transcription of Frederik's "Håbet" (The Hope) originally scored for large brass ensemble, organ and chorus, with a good deal of percussion... You can download "The Hope" here (http://www.magle.dk/music-forums/21-hope-brass-organ-percussion.html) in it's original version... The version for brassband should be available later this year...

KBOC
Oct-15-2005, 07:11
Extraordinary.

Friedrick, this is only the third piece of yours I've listened to.

I judge music largely by how pleasant it would be to listen to on horseback...

Thomorrow morning, I'll be chasing some cows with it... https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Frederik Magle
Oct-15-2005, 14:03
Thanks KBOC, I'm glad you like "Rising Of A New Day". It's really fun for me to know that it will played while chasing cows!! https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif Almost like it's a soundtrack to a western movie, but in real life https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

KBOC
Oct-15-2005, 20:12
I was playing it while I was tacking up Dottie (my horse) and an angus calf we've nicknamed City Slicker ran over to figure out what was going on... I think she liked it too https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Anyway, thanks again for the great music Fredrik https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif https://www.magle.dk/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Dec-11-2005, 09:45
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Winnetou
Mar-30-2006, 20:31
Hey Frederik

I lately have been listening to Light On Your Path again and I really fell in love with Rising Of A New Day. I don't know how I could overlook it the first time, but it's really a great piece. Well maybe I like it, because it has a lot of what I like from filmmusic. It really could underscore a western so well.

Gareth
Mar-31-2006, 06:36
I swear that should be used in a movie.

Thats truely staggering Frederick, well done.

Hip hip hooray for a musical Genius.

-Gareth.

sparky
Apr-02-2006, 12:13
Hello Frederick I have tried to down load Rising of a new day several times it says it is over 4Mb but i am only getting a 13 sec clip is there another link thanks sparky

Sorry cancel the last comment I tried again at 1726 GMT & this time it is ok and I must say it was well worth the effort and wait I whole heartedly agree with Gareth

Frederik Magle
Apr-06-2006, 00:44
Thanks Winnetou, Gareth and sparky! :) I truly appreciate your comments (and I guess it's inevitable that I will do some film msuic one day - and trust me, you will be the first to know! ;))

sparky, it seems that the server has been acting weirdly lately. I have now moved a few of the larger files to a deifferent server and will be looking further into the matter tomorrow if the problems persist. Thanks for letting me know. Glad you got it to work anyhow.

sparky
Apr-06-2006, 09:52
Thanks Frederik server seems ok now.On another note I am hosting a Classical Concert at Axbridge Town Hall in Somerset UK on friday 7th April I would like to play Rising of a New Day while the audiance is being seated and again during the intervals would this be acceptable to you I would announce who the composer is before each playing I just feel it would be a nice piece as a background to what is a new and original concert in this neck of the woods yours in anticipation Sparky:clap:

Thanks Winnetou, Gareth and sparky! :) I truly appreciate your comments (and I guess it's inevitable that I will do some film msuic one day - and trust me, you will be the first to know! ;))

sparky, it seems that the server has been acting weirdly lately. I have now moved a few of the larger files to a deifferent server and will be looking further into the matter tomorrow if the problems persist. Thanks for letting me know. Glad you got it to work anyhow.

Frederik Magle
Apr-06-2006, 20:47
Hi sparky, you shall be most welcome to play »Rising of a new day« at the concert tomorrow! Let me know how it goes :)

sparky
Apr-06-2006, 22:02
Hi sparky, you shall be most welcome to play »Rising of a new day« at the concert tomorrow! Let me know how it goes :)

Thank you :tiphat: I am sure it will go down very well if anyone has anything with a medieval theme I would like to hear it as the Town of Axbridge has a 14th century hunting lodge which was used by King John as his base for his hunting of deer and wild boar way back when royalty ruled by the rod Axbridge holds a medievil festival every year so anything that would fit in would be useful give me a call and I will see what I can do about presenting it to the right people. Sparky:tiphat:

sparky
Apr-06-2006, 23:40
Hi Folks it is hard to admit you got it wrong but here goes just proves don't listen to local stories do some research Sorry Sparky:shake:
:whistle: This medieval house, popularly called "King John's Hunting Lodge", occupies an important site at the corner of the High Street and The Square (the former market place of Axbridge). The building dates from the late middle ages, probably around 1500 or a few years earlier. It comprised shops on the ground floor, living areas and workshops on the first floor, and storage and sleeping areas on the second floor. We know that in 1340 a building with shops occupied the same site; it belonged to John Oldeway and was called "the stockhouse'. This house is the finest of a number of wood-framed houses in the High Street and The Square, unusual in a town where stone buildings, generally rendered with plaster or mortar, were common. It now houses a museum of local history.

Very little is known of the detailed history of the building. No one knows exactly when or why it acquired the name 'King John's Hunting Lodge'; it was certainly so called by 1905 at the latest, although the site has no known association with King John. John reigned from 1199 to 1216, but the Axbridge house was built about three centuries after his death. The king owned the demesnes of Cheddar and Axbridge, which constituted part of the royal forest of Mendip, and he was an enthusiastic hunter, often visiting the Mendip Hills; it was he who granted Axbridge its first royal charter. So, given a house apparently of great age, with a crowned head on the outside, and the likelihood that John would have had a lodging in the area, someone decided - possibly with an eye towards tourism - that it must have been the king's residence. The only known royal residence locally was the palace &. rediscovered in 1960 in Cheddar, where the site can be traced in the grounds of The Kings of Wessex School. Nevertheless the name has stuck to the building. The carved head probably dates back to the sixteenth or seventeenth century and perhaps served as the inn-sign for 'The King's Head' tavern in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. :whistle: :o

sparky
Apr-08-2006, 09:17
Hi Frederik. Well the concert is now over and the hard work will be today clearing everything up, Rising of a New Day went down a storm Just the right length to repeat once to fill a 15 minute break, thanks once again you never know you may get a few new members to the forum on the strength of the concert Thanks sparky
Hi sparky, you shall be most welcome to play »Rising of a new day« at the concert tomorrow! Let me know how it goes :)

sparky
Apr-08-2006, 09:31
Frederik we have composed an Album in sort of medieval eclesiastical classical style wich covers the history of great britain through the ages from pre Christianity thru Roman times and on to the dissolusion of the churches and destruction of the great Abbeys under Henry V111 I would like to send it to you. Can I send it attached to a private message then perhaps you could suggest which forum it would be best suited to how would one attach an mp3 to a private message or should I email it to a particular email address. Thanks sparky.
Hi sparky, you shall be most welcome to play »Rising of a new day« at the concert tomorrow! Let me know how it goes :)

brinda
May-26-2006, 12:32
hi every body... i listened to the "rising of a new day" and its amazing. can u pls help me get the score for this...something like a free download or some thing... it wud be really helpful...thank u.

Frederik Magle
Aug-28-2006, 21:26
Hi Frederik. Well the concert is now over and the hard work will be today clearing everything up, Rising of a New Day went down a storm Just the right length to repeat once to fill a 15 minute break, thanks once again you never know you may get a few new members to the forum on the strength of the concert Thanks sparky

(sorry about the late reply) That's great! Just let me know if you would like to use it again for some event some day :)


hi every body... i listened to the "rising of a new day" and its amazing. can u pls help me get the score for this...something like a free download or some thing... it wud be really helpful...thank u.

I'm glad you like Rising of a new day. Unfortunately I can only provide the score if there's a request for specific use by either a publisher, a conductor and/or an orchestra, or an educational institution.

Kind regards,
Frederik

sparky
Aug-28-2006, 22:10
Hi Frederik
Thanks for the reply late or not it is appreciated thanks for taking the time. On another note ( no pun intended) you have now listened to our new album Gloriam Dei, how about posting the first track to see what response it gets, in fact I would be very happy if you posted a track once a month just to let everyone hear a little bit about the turbulent and ancient times of the British Isles, because as you so rightly pointed out the narrator has a superbly evocative voice which lends it's self so well to the whole story. As disscused earlier we still need to talk about a meeting over here (or there) accommodation will be sorted, just send me a private message I will respond immediately.
Yours sincerely Vic Spark
Vic@timpitman.com Tim Pitman Opera singer (http://www.timpitman.com)

(sorry about the late reply) That's great! Just let me know if you would like to use it again for some event some day :)



I'm glad you like Rising of a new day. Unfortunately I can only provide the score if there's a request for specific use by either a publisher, a conductor and/or an orchestra, or an educational institution.

Kind regards,
Frederik

Stronghold
Mar-30-2007, 02:05
I also enjoyed this maby you can put together a nice melody for me and we can colaberate ill put in some guitar solo work Hahah.

Sounded great really liked it see ya.

susangio
Jul-06-2007, 09:30
Frederik, to me, your original synthesized Rising of a new day is just Exuberant! A little flavor of Aaron Copeland, and very nicely orchestrated! I hope you will finish it. Susanne in Eugene, Oregon, USA.:)

rino29sounds
Dec-01-2009, 18:01
I always love good orchestral music. And this songs flatter me lol, I can feel the spirit too inside.

Nice !! :)

wljmrbill
Dec-01-2009, 20:58
Delightful piece.... I can see a sunrise coming up on the plains with the creatures coming to life after a nights sleep and running/jumping around.... maybe even a chase for breakfast too. Thanks

Frederik Magle
Jan-02-2010, 22:17
Thank you, I feel Rising of a New Day works quite well, and I'm glad you feel the same way :)