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Corno Dolce
Aug-13-2008, 21:35
Anyone who seriously digs jazz performance should get understanding about McCoy's style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zhzon5qtRc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIjQUxs88rU&feature=related

And now a concert performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMPZ7BU73Q

Mat
Aug-14-2008, 02:19
Thank you for posting, Corno Dolce.

Those videos are awesome.

:tiphat:

Corno Dolce
Aug-14-2008, 04:09
Hi Mat,

I'm glad you enjoyed the vids. McCoy Tyner is causing me to rethink jazz pianism. As you know Keith Jarrett has and will always be a source of jazz playing inspiration for me but McCoy Tyner forces me to recast my jazz piano thinking - basically what I'm attempting to do is to meld the Jarrett and Tyner styles into a coherent whole.

Man, I'm struggling but am noticing some subtle changes in my playing. For most of my life I have not looked upon the piano as a percussion instrument but as a stringed instrument wherein I *draw out the sound* I want. With Maestro Tyner's help I'm now also viewing the piano as a huge drum set and adopting his from-the-shoulder hand-pounces onto the keyboard. Yes, now my concert grand roars like Aslan the Lion and my Rachmaninoff is deadly percussive, almost volcanically so.

I'll probably get seriously chided by Rachmaninoff purists - oh well...Its the next phase in my keyboard development :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

Cheers,

CD :):):)

Mat
Aug-14-2008, 20:52
You're right. And I must admit - I used to listen to Tyner's music *from time to time* but it never occured to me how great pianist he is. I rather paid more attention to other pianist like (no particular order) Bill Evans, Michel Camilo, Oscar Peterson or Dave Brubeck.Those vids just seem to have opened my eyes to his music. Thnx for the suggestion.

Tell me Corno, do you play jazz or do you focus only on classical music?

Corno Dolce
Aug-15-2008, 00:41
Hello Mat,

My focus remains classical but I am also delving into jazz piano performance thanks to inspiration by McCoy Tyner and Keith Jarrett. If you can get a hold of the cd entitled *McCoy Tyner plays John Coltrane - Live at the Village Vanguard* listen then to track #3. On the cd it says *Crescent* but when I downloaded it onto my ipod, the itunes title shows up as *Broke Down Piece Of Man*.

Its probably a printing error(the *Crescent* title) and someone forgot to proofread the galleys before they went to press. Anyway, it is one of my most fave tracks in all of McCoy Tyner's output. McCoy's sound is so thick and chordal to the max and the way he voices the chords brings out harmonic textures that just dazzle mind.

Cheers,

CD :):):)

ps. Brother Mat - I too have listened very much to those very same pianists as you mention plus Bud Powell - Powell has that *hammering style* that McCoy incorporated into his own playing style. McCoy however, brings it up to a whole other level - like the *Sledgehammer of Thor*.

pps. I really can't understand why our MIMF colleague CT64 doesn't enjoy jazz - Hopefully he will one day come around to embrace jazz as a great art form. He should begin with Keith Jarrett or McCoy Tyner in a trio setting.

Mat
Aug-15-2008, 01:31
It's great to know that you have interest also in playing jazz. Did you learn all by yourself ?

Thanks for the advice on Tyner's performance. I will sure look that one up. Can't say too much about his style yet, but I hope to get some of his recordings soon, so I can take the measure of him.

So - as would our dear Intet say - it seems like we are "pretty much on the same shelf around jazz" :). Although, among all those names I forgot about Chick Corea. I learned a lot from his playing. I've written down one of his solos on Sophisticated Lady. Pure gold, IMO. It lasts two and a half minutes but it took me a few hours to write it down. But it was totally worth it. There's this one CD that is simply an essence of his style for me. Unfortunately, I don't have the title. As soon as I get it I will let you know.

Yes, too bad CT64 haven't realised yet how stunnig jazz music is. But give him some time. I'm sure he will find the right way soon:grin::grin::grin:

Corno Dolce
Aug-15-2008, 01:45
Br. Mat,

Yes, Chick Corea is an artist whose music style I have followed quite a few years.

Yes again, I'm pretty much self-learned when it comes to jazz piano playing - alot yet to learn but coming along nicely. I'll listen to McCoy's playing through my midi system and play along; sorta like a two-piano duet.

Cheers,

CD :):):)

ps. Aha, so you're transcribing Chick Corea's music - Hey, thats a good way to learn a piece. I should do that with McCoy's style of piano works and improvs; although his very unique chord voicings make that a challenge for mere jazz mortals like myself.

Mat
Aug-15-2008, 02:40
Well, not only Corea's music. It's like when I hear something worthful I sit in front my piano and begin to write. Sometimes it is a challenge but it's worth it. I think that this way I can learn a lot, do some analysis. I could buy such thing (solos & analysis) but it is all very expensive. So I'd rather did it myslef. :)

Corno Dolce
Aug-15-2008, 09:48
Bravo Sir Mat - An excellent job stupendously done perfectly :):):)

Jazz_Keys
Sep-20-2008, 21:35
Thanks Corno Dolce for the link from this forum to my YouTube tutorials. Trying to blend McCoy and Keith is quite a challenge. I find that I also have tried to blend the styles of some of my favorite pianists and musical influences when I perform, and hopefully it comes out sounding unique to me and not too much like any one particular player. I do sometimes like to "channel" one player in particular and play a whole piece in that style as I did for the McCoy tutorials.

Corno Dolce
Sep-20-2008, 22:52
Aloha Jazz_Keys,

What an honor and a privilege to have you on board MIMF - Welcome dear sir, please do make yourself feel right at home and stay for a spell. Of course, MIMF isn't a Jazz forum like *All About Jazz* - there are a few of us who really dig Jazz as listeners and as performers.

We try to reach out and share the wonderful gift of Jazz which transcends time and space. I am happy to have shared your YouTube links, hoping that some might experience the excitement of Jazz. That you have met *The Man McCoy* is such a coup - Frankly, I'm a bit envious of you - envy is really secret admiration.

Again, welcome to our humble and friendly forum.

Cheerio,

CD :):):)

Mat
Sep-21-2008, 15:04
Yes, I'll second this. It's great you joined our forum, Jazz_Keys. Please do feel free to participate in any thread you like. And those videos of yours are excellent. But I'm sure I'm not the first one to tell you that.;)


Take care,
Mat

Jazz_Keys
Sep-21-2008, 15:46
Thanks for the warm welcome Mat and Corno -
Yes, I will try to check in from time to time. Sometimes I get too busy to check the forum but if there is an interesting thread you think I should see or you'd like to see if I want to join in on the discussion please feel free to PM me.
Regards,
Jazz_Keys

methodistgirl
Sep-22-2008, 02:15
I've played ragtime which is another type of jazz piano but I don't know
if I could handle that style or not. It looks hard but interesting.
judy tooley:cool:

JLS
Sep-22-2008, 07:41
Saw him in a solo concert at the Jazz Bakery in LA several years ago. Fantastic.

Jazz_Keys
Sep-22-2008, 17:51
Yes, I find McCoy's solo performances to be amazing. His internal time-keeping is great - which is one aspect of solo playing I find quite difficult.


With Maestro Tyner's help I'm now also viewing the piano as a huge drum set... I started my musical career as a drummer, so this style of playing is a good fit for me.

Jazz_Keys
Sep-23-2008, 18:26
Speaking of McCoy - you might be interested to listen to this re-broadcast of the 1983 Piano Jazz broadcast on NPR featuring McCoy playing and talking. You can find it here:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94547798

Corno Dolce
Sep-23-2008, 21:09
Aloha Jazz_Keys,

Yeah, I hear ya about internal time keeping. I had to struggle mightily with that aspect myself. Thanx for the great link - I'm listening to it now.

Cheerio,

CD :):):)

Mat
Sep-23-2008, 22:14
So am I :)

Corno Dolce
Oct-26-2008, 19:07
Aloha Mr. Watt,

Quite an inspirational story. McCoy Tyner keeps on truckin' without any let up. I recently acquired his latest called *Guitars* - a cd and a dvd - most fascinating.......

Cheerio,

CD :):):)

Dorsetmike
Dec-19-2008, 00:55
Must be my age (74) but I still much prefer piano players from the past, not in any order of preference but likes of Mel Powell, Mary Lou williams, Oscar Peterson, Art Tatum, Albert Ammons, George Shearing, John Lewis and others. Same goes for modern classical stuff Ludovico Einaudi leaves me cold, the sort of thing I might hear in a lift - muzak,
I prefer music.

http://www.benchinistas.org.uk/forum/Smileys/custom/uhohhide.gif

Dorsetmike
Dec-19-2008, 14:07
I was fortunate enough to see the great man twice in UK, one of those times with another great, Joe Pass on guitar.