I like it, but is it jazz?

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
I saw a video on TC that was posted by a member (Bassist) playing free jazz and all I can say is that it had neither rhythm, melody or form and although the musicians were accomplished the result was crap so, I guess that John has a thing about the sound that was produced by Marsalis just as I have a thing about electric Guitars. thank god we are not all the same
 

stu

New member
The Marsalis I quite liked. I also feel the LCO are one of the top big bands around right now. Marsalis' improvisation was, to me, a tense hard bop solo accompanied by a lagging behind the beat rhythm section. Marsalis isn't one of my all time trumpet favourites but he runs a damn good band.
Interest also here was a glimpse of long time LCO member baritonist Joe Temperley, who didn't solo, but who was born and bred about 10 miles down the road from where I live. :)

As for out and out free jazz I cringe!!....but!!...I like quite a lot of avante garde and within that genre I can accept the occasional free jazz screech or birdcall or even a whole section of such when it does appear to have some relevance to the piece being played.
 

OLDUDE

New member
Thank goodness Mike, Colin and stu that Marsalis Bros. excepted I do agree with
you about the obscenely horrific free jazz that has somehow crept in to our sort of music.
On the whole however i feel I should retire to the pre-60s experience where most of my
pleasure lies. (Even Charlie Parker is starting to sound good.)
 

OLDUDE

New member
Going back to the original theme, and my entry on the "What jazz --- listening" thread.
Could anyone help me with the quandiary as to what male vocalists comply with a "jazz"
classification.
 
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Dorsetmike

New member
Mel Tormé came fairly close at times, Lambert and Hendricks (with Annie Ross), also some in groups like "The Real Group", Swingles?
 

stu

New member
Good stuff Mike! All among the best of jazz to my old ears! Jimmy Rushing was and still is among my top blues/jazz singers/shouters.
Lamber,Hendricks and Ross, the tops at jazz vocalese.
Now, 'The Real Group' are new to me and they sound like excellent jazz perfomers!
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
The late George Melly was a great entertainer this is one of his classics

 

OLDUDE

New member
Hi Colin,
I've always enjoyed the guy (and there is no question about such music being jazz as far as I'm concerned) but his gay overplay can be off-puttable.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Hi Colin,
I've always enjoyed the guy (and there is no question about such music being jazz as far as I'm concerned) but his gay overplay can be off-puttable.

No PC in those days ..........
 

Mat

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I have been thinking about posting this one here for a while now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtGG1WLP1pk

It has a very interesting story behind it, too (you can read it in the clip description).

How would you classify it? What do you think of the saxophone?
 

stu

New member
Nice. An improvised, it seems, soprano saxophone soloing over an oft recurring theme. Jazz inflected.
What do I think of the saxophone? Hard to judge in such a structured piece. I would have to hear him in another setting really. (can he fight?)
I can only say it's beautiful and obviously heartfelt. Somewhat fitting for the tragic circumstances it was composed for.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
How would you classify it? What do you think of the saxophone?

I would call it light orchestral music or even elevator music. The wailing Sax? OK if you go for that sort of thing. and I am not knocking the sentiments behind the composition a truly sad part of our space program.
 

teddy

Duckmeister
Colin. Would you have liked it more if it had not been soprano sax? Not your favourite instrument I know.

teddy
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
No teddy it would have made not one scrap of difference
 

OLDUDE

New member
With ref. to singing jazz groups such as "The Real Music" and "Lambert, Hendricks and Ross"
(both of which I rate highly), I must bring in "The Four Freshmen" whom I love to listen to.
 
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JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
I thought Khan was very virtuosic but did not care much for Dave Field or Brian Legere it just did not have the driving punch needed for good jazz, but that is just me being picky again.
 
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