Another good reason why I moved to Canada...Here (and it seems the Commonwealth) people seem more open to diversity, acceptance, no jumping to judgment pretty much just letting people be who they are. Yes, not everyone has to like everyone else, but at least here people are more apt to just let people live in peace. Of course, if you are hurting someone else or depriving them of their liberty, safety or comfort, the government simply will not tolerate it.
Rojo, people in Canada are really lucky to have been raised with the ideals that they have. Coming from the states I can tell you that it just isn't that way there. Biggots a plenty there. Most people there just can't fathom living the way we do here.
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOO happy to be here now!
Stephen
Before anyone jumps all over me, I know I disparaged MJ a little, but I have always enjoyed his talent. Part of my past problem with him has been from media hype, as Rojo pointed out earlier. Who really knows WHAT the truth is? Like the citizens REALLY know the reasons for the invasion of Iraq? Who the heck can you believe about anything in the US...the government? Come on, be real.
I know they hyped up about his being a pedaphile, but until it is PROVEN then nobdy can do anything other than surmise. I fell into the media trap but am happy to be out of that situation now.
Thank you, Rojo for pointing out what should be obvious to everyone. And thank you for such a tolerant society.
Stephen
I'm glad you're taking a liking to living here in Canada, Stephen.
Your enthusiasm is heart-warming. I don't know that I should be seen as an example of Canadians in general though; I'm just speaking my point of view, that's all. Can't speak for other Canadians.
Here's some Canadian humour.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRI-A3vakVg[/youtube]
:lol:
Stephen - this place has its ups and downs, like any other community. But if someone really "gets up your goat" you just block them and then you don't see their pointless banter. This is, on the whole, a very minor occurrence. Most people, like Marval, Rojo, Miss Judy, Krummiest, Sweet Corn and the list goes on and one are a total laugh a minute
CT64, I think Stephen was referring to living in Canada, not the MIMF community. But thanks for the compliment.
Contratrombone said...
"Emmery - your comments are spurious and/or apochrophal, yes?"
My opinions are validated by my own reasoning. I welcome any feedback or argument to the contrary but have not heard any thats strong enough to sway the way I feel (yet). Our court and justice system follows the premise of "Better to let a guilty man go free, than to wrongly incarcerate the (possibly) innocent". There are plenty of (probably)guilty people wielding power, money and influence walking free in the streets because of their lawyers manipulating this "loophole". Had MJ been just a poor Joe with an appointed defense lawyer...his outcome most likely have resulted in a striped sun tan and maybe commented on in the back pages of a newspaper.
If you look at lesser offenses like drunk driving, assault and such, celebrities are getting the so called "tap on the hand" treatment (counselling, community service, charity concerts ect) while Joe Nobodies are going to jail and loosing their license to drive. This is not true justice.
One of the longstanding backbones of our justice system was the notion that if a person served their time in jail, the slate gets wiped clean, and they can continue on in their life without the past hounding them. Yet citizens are warned of past child offenders living in their communities. Border guards ask if you have ever been charged (not even convicted) with any crimes in the past. Suspected terrorists are being held for years awaiting trials for crimes they have not even been formally charged with or shown the nature of the allegations against them.
The world is changing people, and eroding privileges and rights along with it. Some for the better "good" of us all, and some not.
If my views on MJ seem to out of line with the views of MJ fans...so be it...I'm not saying he needs to be whipped for his behavior, I'm just saying that its unlikely that any children in my care would be allowed near him if he was unsupervised. To me thats not bigotry or discrimination, its just a gut feeling tempered with what I consider common sense.
Well, it has become apparent to me, at least, that your reasoning is flawed because it is based on lies, exaggeration, shallow things such as a person's appearance, gross generalizations about the court systems etc.. No facts. As to a gut feeling, you're certainly entitled to one, and to state that. That's all your point of view boils down to. Your lies have been exposed, and you haven't even responded to any of the facts that I have presented.
Emmery, you raise good points in general about problems in the court system, even if they are mostly gross generalizations at best. And yes, it's not perfect. But my views on MJ are not just the views of the fans. There are also plenty of non-fans that share my views. See the first post of this thread by the owner of this forum. More and more, it's becoming common knowledge that the case against MJ was fabricated, despite the media's cheap attempts to convince people otherwise for money.
We've already stated that people are in no way required to leave children in MJ's care. I think everyone agrees on that. In any case, that point is moot, as I don't think any of us will be even running into MJ, let alone having to make a choice as to whether or not we should leave kids with him. :lol: He was exonerated, yet you continue to imply that MJ was guilty. Now, you've stated your opinion. This discussion has become tiresome. I don't really care what you think about MJ; I do care that the lies stop.
Final warning.
