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    Re: The Real Danger To The World...

    Thanks for your reply.
    I was reading in my SOSE book about world history for school one day, and came over Hitler here, and as you mentioned, Hitler did 'sway' the German community with him, but for one reason, power, and power only. If only the poeple knew what they were voting for.

    But wasn't it that Hitler DIDN'T get the nessacary attention from ANYone for a long time? Wasn't it that Hitler made some sort of deal to get more seats, by 'more' then persuasive talking? And only until then, he make higher in rank, to be able to semi-'control' Germany, and turn the army against the country? Is all this what I'm recalling correct?
    You seem to be highly educated in this part, and I would love to hear more on your part, for you seem to explain it better then any textbook I've seen (Besides the Encyclopedia).

    Thanks

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    Hi Basia,

    Thanx for your kind words about my knowledge. I am passionate about History and do alot of reading on it and am interested in the human condition - not as a psychologist or as a psychiatrist but as a way of understanding how things can go horribly awry.

    I weep over what has happened to the good people of Poland, especially after the Polish Partitions during the Reign of Catherine II of Russia, Frederick II of Prussia and Maria Theresa of Austria. The culmination being Poland dissappearing from the map during the Third Partition of 1795. And then, of course, Hitler's troops slashing through Poland and then the Russian Occupation of Poland.

    Let us remember that the Nazi-dominated Reichstag enacted the so-called Enabling Act giving Hitler's government the power to rule by decree. Hitler had been appointed Chancellor by Paul von Hindenburg on 30 Jan 1933 and then Hitler
    accomplished the *Machtergreifung* by constitutional procedures. The capturing of legal authority for the Nazis and the elimination of competing political groups consolidated Hitler's grip on Germany.

    Giovanni

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    Quote Originally Posted by giovannimusica View Post
    Remember, Sweden was a homogenous society until the Socialists took over. The Government took in many from the Middle East to help solve the lack of employable people to do the jobs ordinary Swedes did not want to do.
    In my experience, people like being with members of their own group, which is defined by ethnicity, religion, values and philosophies. Some would call this observation bigoted, but keep in mind I'm not passing judgment on this -- I'm just telling what reality is. Others can work themselves up into apoplexy judging it, but this is my observation.

    Personally, I would like to live around a community of nice people who share my values.

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    In my experience, people like being with members of their own group, which is defined by ethnicity, religion, values and philosophies.
    I've lived as an ex-patriot in three different countries. I've met people who have lived in a country for fifteen years or more and never bothered to learn the language. Most spend all their time with other ex-pats. I really don't understand this attitude. I come to a country to live in that country, to learn about it's culture and people and try to learn to belong. I know it is easier to seek out those like you, who speak your language and know your culture, but that is no way to live in this world.

    I grew up in a town with a large percentage of Vietnamese families. It was a very very small town. The Vietnamese families were considered much less foreign than people from the next county over.

    That is what liberality means to me, the ability to open your mind and accept people as people, not disregarding their cultural differences but embracing them and learning from them.

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    My goodness but you are sounding very xenophobic.That is how it starts,an irrational fear of foreigners.Please don't fall into the obvious trap of blaming socio-economic problems on a general ethnicity.I live in a city that has always for hundreds of years had waves of different ethnic groups arriving fleeing everything from war ,religious persecution,economic hardship all of these and more. The pattern is always the same,impoverished people arrive in a strange culture,language and cultural barriers cause misunderstanding and frustration.Desperation,leads to tension and violence.The right wing flag it as a sign of all that is wrong in a City/country/economic center.Remove, or at the very least get tough with the foreigners,and all will be well.
    The reality is of course that as people gradually get used to their new environment the conflict fades,the worse the economic situation in a country the longer the adjustment period.All nationalities have their low class thugs and criminals,they are usually more visible in times of national crisis whether that crisis is economic or social.The gap between the haves and have nots in Europe is widening.Tension through ignorance and greed political and religious intolerance has again reared its ugly head,so it is now that moderates must take the moral high ground and not make sweeping judgments based on rumor and fear.Beware or you become the thing you fear.I fully agree with Zlya.Isolation is no way to live, it invites fear and suspicion.Integration and acceptance is the way to true freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prokop View Post
    I understand some of what this guy is saying about the dangers of nations governed by aggressors. That said, this is an army nutcase who is commited to war and hates hippies.

    Who are the "american liberals" ? In my country, a liberal is a beliver in liberalism, that is a weak state, opportunity for the individual etc..



    Is he refering to half of the american population as wackos ?

    I didnt read the article.. this thread is pretty old its gone now.. but if you would like to know..

    A Liberal in America is someone who is Liberal in Social issues.. A Conservative is someone who is Conservative in Social issues. Both Parties are almost the same in Economic issues in my view.

    Also what I read about that article its a joke. Anyone who calls the USSR Communist is misinformed. More like a Socialist Dictatorship. I also like when North Korea, Vietnam, China and others are described as Communist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth View Post
    Has anyone heard of what is going on here in Australia about the different Races.....not only the Sydney brawl...but now Muslims are rising up against the prime minister, John Howard, and saying that they want to live their own way in this country, but, the Prime minister is saying...you live in our country you have to abide by our rules or else you're out.....which I think is absolutely correct...What is your opinions?

    Gareth.
    Plus Howard is making yet more anti-Aboriginal noises. Is there an election coming up sometime soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by giovannimusica View Post
    ... I weep over what has happened to the good people of Poland...
    I admit to curiosity over this comment, Giovanni.

    Are you implying that the Polish are particularly "good people" where people in other countries are not?

    Would this 'goodness' include the Polish history of anti-semitism?

    Would it include the two ultra-nationalistic, homophobic, sexist fruitbats that are currently running the country?

    Do you weep over what has happened to people elsewhere in the world? If not, what makes the Poles so special? If the Poles are especially "good people", this implies that there are some 'bad people' – perhaps you'd care to elucidate.

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    Hi Sybarite. I want to compliment you re your excellent response posted on 6-6-07. Sometimes I wonder if we as a race--human--are considering the same history that is supposed to be under discussion. Even more, I wonder if we are on the same planet. Anyway, good work. Peace and out.
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