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    Hi Colin'
    I doubt if I have mentioned it before (since this is a jazz forum), but I also appreciate quite a bit of
    Classical music. I recently fully enjoyed a John Wilson Orchestrial performance at the Sage Theatre, Gateshead.
    However I think my greatest treat was when I saw Erroll Garner at the City Hall Newcastle many years ago.

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    It is amazing how many classical lovers also like jazz perhaps next to Classical jazz is/or can be quite complex whereas Folk and pop are pretty basic, don't misunderstand me there is nothing wrong with basic and I can't comment on the Rock genre as I just don't listen to it. I had to google John Wilson Orch as he was new to me but glad you enjoyed it.
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    funny thing about knock-on effects Colin.
    Your prior comment made me realize that I hadn't actually looked for John wilson
    on Youtube and so I have had a good session doing so.
    But this ended with me listening to the following trumpet session
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=gR3asDsbiR0
    not jazz of course, but good to listen to.

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    Certainly a great trunpet player John and a great band generally. Never was really a fan of Sinatra but you have to give him his due.

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    How about this from one of my CDs
    https://app.box.com/s/4ta5fegty01cevsv11kf

    One of the top classical violinists of his day and confined to a wheelchair due to polio ‘I think’ here he performs Klezmer music which also is not jazz but…………………

    Total = 4:30 but it breaks into a toe tapping rhythm at about 2:45.

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    Sorry Colin,
    I couldn't play that on my system

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDUDE View Post
    Sorry Colin,
    I couldn't play that on my system
    That's peculiar John what do you see when you click the link and what is your system?
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    Millions "disappeared" not because of opposing viewpoints, but because this forum is so slow-moving. I'm used to faster, like Amazon, which unfortunately has retired.

    Interesting book, "The Rest Is Noise", which is a history of 20th century music. In it, the author discusses how the tin-pan alley songwriters, most of whom were Jewish, (Gershwin, Cahn, Jerome Kern, etc.) liked jazz, and how these songs became what we now see as "jazz standards" (All The Things You Are, Sweet Georgia Brown, Summertime, I Got Rhythm, etc.).
    So a major factor in jazz's transforming and continuing assimilation into American Western Culture was the adoption of these tin-pan alley harmonic progressions, which gave us the ubiquitous ii-V7-I progression, the I-vi-ii-V7 and all the other variants; and most of this was due to a Jewish influence. They were 'outsiders' who could relate to black music, and wanted to assimilate.

    Still, the very earliest jazz, like early Louis Armstrong, was horn-driven (not piano-driven) and was more basically blues in nature, not harmonically advanced or Westernized yet.
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