I have never condoned violence, a slap or spanking as I understand it is far from violence. My dictionary defines violent as "use of excessive force". In that respect one could almost define your posts as violent.
I see. You consider my argumentative style closer to violence than hitting children. If I came to your house in anger over your posts in this thread and hit you, you wouldn't consider that violence? What if I went to someone's house and hit their kids? Again, not violence?
Regardless of your attempt to define your way out of this, the use of the word "violence" is unnecessary. The work shows that
spanking, not just more severe forms of abuse, results in higher likelihood of criminal behavior. But of course you will continue to ignore reality in favor of your selfish personal needs.
I still maintain that there is no substitute for experience and that on this issue that is extremely relevant which is probably why you try so hard to dismiss it, facts such as you mention are always open to suspicion.
Yes, I see you "maintaining" this, but you have yet to explain
why your personal experience is more relevant than the work of thousands. I have asked this multiple times, now. No one has yet given an answer. It is obviously because you can't.
Why so much emphasis on facts,
Remember saying this?
The posts you reply to put me in mind of someone I knew who frequently said "don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up"
...in this day with the internet and google you can find facts to support any view. I recall it being said that the devil could quote the scriptures in his own support, so not much changes over the years!
Researchers can easily skew findings to suit their theory, just tailor the tests, groups or the questions you ask so that you avoid conflicting answers, publish it on the internet and whoopee, new facts. Political, religious and commercial groups are exceptionally good at this, which are you following?
I am well aware of what constitutes legitimate research. I have never and will never receive information from any source that has not followed rigorous research methods and submitted their work for peer review. That said, the
knowledge we have about this issue is not from some dinky website I found one day. The work was started before even you were born and the results have been produced for literally decades. This is
standard knowledge as far as the educated are concerned. It is not in question except by people like you. People who are
unwilling to see reality because it conflicts with their petty feelings.
The problem is that people like yourself with some sort of axe to grind jump on these facts and stuff them down other peoples throats regardless of their validity other than "I saw it on the net/TV/Newspaper so it must be true."
This is nothing but an ad hominem. You have absolutely no idea what my knowledge base is, or where it comes from. I could be some teenage kid talking out his ass, or I could be a Ph.D. in Child Psychology or anywhere in between.
Your question in post #94 is about on a par with "have you stopped beating your wife?" and does not need an answer; and your implication that no answer is proof of guilt is yet another example of your naivety.
It does not need an answer? If spanking children harms them, do you want to know? Your answer is clearly, "no". You are thus guilty of willful ignorance. I hold up possible knowledge to you in an honest attempt to do my part in making this world a better place and you respond by covering your eyes with one hand and flipping me off with the other. You don't look to see whether it's true or not, you don't
care whether it's true or not because
you don't want it to be true. I find this to be cowardly. I don't see how it could be anything else.
From your avoidance of my question re your age etc I would infer that you have something to hide.
You are attempting to sway people by making it seem that our ages are more relevant than what's true. My lack of an answer is simply a dismissal of your desperate attempt at sophistry. This knowledge
didn't come from me. This isn't my knowledge. It was reached by many people who have dedicated their lives to understanding it. Even if I had never existed, what I am saying would still be true, so clearly any personal facts about me are irrelevant. It has nothing to do with me. Nor does it have anything to do with you. It is sad that you are incapable of understanding that real knowledge does not reside in the beliefs of one ignorant man, or even one educated man, but in the combined understanding of those who have sought to find it.
By the way I still find your continued diatribe against all who disagree with you to be extremely obnoxious; you are behaving exactly like a spoilt child who is in dire need of some of the discipline we are discussing.
Diatribe? My opponents are free to post their(your) side, but if I do the same I have done something wrong? You are dishonest to the core.