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Clarion
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Sorry Ntalikeris666;84876; but my lack of response to your question was intentional.
As someone living here in Ontario, Canada; located just an hour down the road from the impressive new Phoenix Canada manufacturing facility, I am not at all convinced that my experiences or prices incurred here in Canada would be in any way relevant to your European locus.
Regards
Claron
Ntalikeris666
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BTW i dont know if phoenix in Europe is the same as phoenix in Canada.
About the cases, surely its not. I dont know about the sound though. I contacted a dealer of Phoenix in the UK and the prices were quite good. For a 45 stop 2 manual organ they charged 15500 ~ Pounds (17900~ Euros, or 25400 $ ) without the installation and delivery.
By the way , i played on a content Mondri 5800 model (Their Highest end models) and the sound was pretty nice! The flues did not "scream" in the upper notes, mixtures were nice, and reeds were majestic. Also they seem to have implemented quite well the MAS (surround) technology. It is not the same as Johannus. I have played on both. Its far better (in my ear).
Generally, i think that content has more European sounding organs, whereas Phoenix are a bit more american (without saying in any way that they are bad) I am not a fanboy of neither of them , so please i would like to hear an undistorted opinion. BTW have you played on a content?
(a new one)
FelixLowe
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Hello there,
Have you tried visiting the German page on Content organs, provided by a German shop? It provides a recital of organ works played on various models of the brand. The link is www.sakralorgelwelt.de/content/. There, find the button called Klangbeispiele on the left, and you will see a long playlist.
Generally speaking, from what I know, the company can offer different voicing, that is, English or Continental. However, their ordinary voicing in is in what organ literature would call the North German Baroque tradition to the degree of sounding like some Danish and certain other organs in Germany. In the past, there were ancient organs in Eastern Germany, that sounded similarly. For the pipe organ equivalent, the digital brand seems to emulate the Marcussen and Son's pipe organs produced in Denmark. The characteristics include forceful, articulate principals, and high-pitched mutations such as the 1' and 1 1/3' are made available for use. Also, the mixture and cymbel are unique, when compared to South German Baroque organs. Overall the voicing is lean and clear-cut, devoid of excessive fat lower harmonics.
I disagree with certain unfair comments I've read about the voicing. If you get a CD that features the old organs of Denmark, you will get general picture of the tonal quality which is extremely well emulated by Content. More often, we hear sounds produced by other digital organs in the South German tradition.
Someone had asked about a comparision between Content and Johannus. The latter featured a similar voicing more than 10 year's ago, but it seems to have altered its voicing in its more recent lines.
Also there are a few Content organ sound excerpts one can find on youtube.
Regards,
Felix
Have you tried visiting the German page on Content organs, provided by a German shop? It provides a recital of organ works played on various models of the brand. The link is www.sakralorgelwelt.de/content/. There, find the button called Klangbeispiele on the left, and you will see a long playlist.
Generally speaking, from what I know, the company can offer different voicing, that is, English or Continental. However, their ordinary voicing in is in what organ literature would call the North German Baroque tradition to the degree of sounding like some Danish and certain other organs in Germany. In the past, there were ancient organs in Eastern Germany, that sounded similarly. For the pipe organ equivalent, the digital brand seems to emulate the Marcussen and Son's pipe organs produced in Denmark. The characteristics include forceful, articulate principals, and high-pitched mutations such as the 1' and 1 1/3' are made available for use. Also, the mixture and cymbel are unique, when compared to South German Baroque organs. Overall the voicing is lean and clear-cut, devoid of excessive fat lower harmonics.
I disagree with certain unfair comments I've read about the voicing. If you get a CD that features the old organs of Denmark, you will get general picture of the tonal quality which is extremely well emulated by Content. More often, we hear sounds produced by other digital organs in the South German tradition.
Someone had asked about a comparision between Content and Johannus. The latter featured a similar voicing more than 10 year's ago, but it seems to have altered its voicing in its more recent lines.
Also there are a few Content organ sound excerpts one can find on youtube.
Regards,
Felix
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Ntalikeris666
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Check these out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CleDeNiCPS4&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azx1y62xmNc&fmt=18
Regards,
Nicholas
FelixLowe
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Hello there,
Although the D4000 and D5000 of Content sound superb in the headphone, listening with the organ's inbuilt or professional loudspeakers mounted on the wall may well be a different matter. However, I suspect the Mondri series is a better solution as it has 18 speakers in it. In fact, whenver budget permits, the number of speakers, in my view, should be doubled. 36 speakers, and at least two subwoofers. And more stops can be added in a custom Mondri, I guess. The reason I say this is because it seems that a few excepts on youtube featuring a Dutch guy playing his resident Content organ has pretty realistic sound projection, even though the quality of recording of those excepts are not first-class. So the trick really is the number of speakers, aside from the sampling technology. Please view this video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVgpzh3rXuM&feature=related. However, the Mixture heard in verse 2 of this clip is rather insipid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5u-ykr6WPo. I don't know if it is because of the quality of the recording or the character of the Mixture itself.
But by enlarge the number of speakers is almost a decisive factor in creating more realistic organ sound production.
Felix
Although the D4000 and D5000 of Content sound superb in the headphone, listening with the organ's inbuilt or professional loudspeakers mounted on the wall may well be a different matter. However, I suspect the Mondri series is a better solution as it has 18 speakers in it. In fact, whenver budget permits, the number of speakers, in my view, should be doubled. 36 speakers, and at least two subwoofers. And more stops can be added in a custom Mondri, I guess. The reason I say this is because it seems that a few excepts on youtube featuring a Dutch guy playing his resident Content organ has pretty realistic sound projection, even though the quality of recording of those excepts are not first-class. So the trick really is the number of speakers, aside from the sampling technology. Please view this video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVgpzh3rXuM&feature=related. However, the Mixture heard in verse 2 of this clip is rather insipid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5u-ykr6WPo. I don't know if it is because of the quality of the recording or the character of the Mixture itself.
But by enlarge the number of speakers is almost a decisive factor in creating more realistic organ sound production.
Felix