Working with Ghent Belfry Samples

[JayR]

Has anyone worked with the samples from the Ghent Belfry? Does anyone know what factor should be used with PipeTune to get the pitches corrected? Is there a program out there that will display the pitch of the pipe samples we use in our organ definitions?

Thank You,
Jay

 

[Ghekorg7 (Ret)]

Has anyone worked with the samples from the Ghent Belfry? Does anyone know what factor should be used with PipeTune to get the pitches corrected? Is there a program out there that will display the pitch of the pipe samples we use in our organ definitions?

Thank You,
Jay

Hi Jay

I got both Ghent (beautiful) and pipe tune (.....)

Pipe tune has problems in ...... comunication with us. Still can't make it to work with it's own paradigm (tuning & adding stops to Ott chamber organ).

Try to find Laszlo Arvai's Mini-Tuner v1.3 from......1998-99 (!?).
Works simple but accurate. If you can't find pm me, you know..

regards
Panos

 

[ggoode.sa]

Hi Jay,

Bells are notoriously never 'in tune'.... however, the GTune vst does a good basic job (http://www.gvst.co.uk/gtune.htm), and if you have a DX Effects host (Reaper, Sony Soundforge, Adobe Audition, etc) then you can try K-Tuner (http://www.kvraudio.com/get/932.html). For a stand-alone application, give Analogue-X Autotune a try (http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/audio/autotune.htm).
There, I think some experimentation is now possible

Let us know how it goes,
GrahamG

 

[JayR]

Overall, I find the original samples to be around a step-and-a-half flat of their listed pitch. I used a D# in place of a C and the pitch at which the sound settled to seemed to be really close to a pipe sounding at the same C pitch.

 

[Ghekorg7 (Ret)]

All stuff from Sonimusicae are tuned a semitone down from 440 (415hz Baroque tuning) but in equal temperament. On their site they say we can use pipe tune.....:grin:

strange eh?

 

[JayR]

One other thing I have noticed with any "percussive" samples, such as carillion, harpsichord, etc. is I have to attack the keys with a percussive "hit" as opposed to pressing the key as I would normally on an organ manual. Otherwise, I the sample will play twice - once while pressing the key down and then once again upon release. Has anyone else experienced this issue?

Thank You,
Jay

 

[L.Palo]

I can tell you how I go about when correcting pitches. There are of course many different ways, but I'll share mine.

I normally use Wavosaur or Audacity and a tuning software like fmit (free musical instrument tuner http://home.gna.org/fmit/) or TUNE!IT (http://www.zeta.org.au/~dvolkmer/tuneit.html). I play the sample in the editor (usually Wavosaur), check the reading (remember to calibrate the soundcard first if you use TUNE!IT) and correct the pitch with the pitch shift tool according to the reading.

For more than cent corrections I sometimes use Audacity instead, but it depends on what software gives the best result for the specific sample. There are of course other audio editors, but those are free to use.

In Linux it's very simple to route the sound output to fmit by using JACK and get a good reading of the note, you can even do it from within GrandOrgue if you like to check the tuning of a sampleset. (I personally use Linux most of the time and above mentioned software, if not directly available for Linux, is possible to run via Wine) But I know that it works in windows also...

Kind regards