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    Agreed, Muza
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    Many years ago Fritzl applied for planning permission, to build in the basement. I wander what he told them it was for.

    Now they are asking questions.


    Margaret

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    He also looks like a war criminal from the Nazis. Someone needs to take
    this ole devil and sacrifice him to the roaches.
    judy tooley

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    Frizl is a pædophile, a mysogynist and an aleged child murderer ... can't get much worse than that. I fear, as he's now declared insane, that he'll spend the rest of his life in the relative comfort of a mental institution, unlike a stint in prison which would met out far better punishment. Child murderers, pædophiles and rapists have it (rightly) tough in prison.

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    I couldnt agree with you more, CT. I heard his lawyer talk to the media today, and it was sickening! He is insane, blah blah blah, and by the way he is old - too old for prison! (im not sure he said that, but for some reason i think he did)

    psst, too old my elbow!!! if thats his defense, he should be right there in the same prison cell!

    Thats just unfair and wrong!
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    Using ones "age" is a cop-out that gets them a lesser sentence. Let's feel sorry for Frizl , as he is too old and frail to be treated like a common criminal. Bull crap!! You do the crime, you do the time - age doesn't mean diddly squat.

    As soon as this is taught and upheld in our court system, there will always be "sacrifices" for sentence time based upon personal health, age, ingrown toenails, baldness, etc.
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    Or height!

    Does anybody remember a case few years ago, also with a sexual predator - a pedophile of a sort. A judge refused to send him to the jail because he was short!!!!!!!!!!! Outrageos!!!! He is too short, and because of that he might get hurt!

    Thats the idea, honey! Mind you, she was asked to step down, but for someone in the position of the judge to even say something like that!
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    True Muza, very true ...

    You think they would excuse a sentence on tall people too? I'm 6'5" and people my height might not fit into the doorways ... ?

    At least the judge got the just reward after that case, but only a hand slap no doubt. Just so criminal ... so criminal for the judge to even think that.
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    Scary is what it is! But at least its good to know that people havent completely lost their minds or became immune to this stupidity and got her the heck out of there.

    Im sure thats the only "punishment" she got, but thats enough!
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    I think some of these judges etc. forget what they are really there to do. Mete out justice, punish the offenders. The paedophiles etc. and their lawyers should be told TOUGH, why should we consider your feelings and problems. After all what consideration did they give their victims, none.

    They are now saying that Fritzl probably raped his grandaughter, but as she is in a coma, nothing can be proved. The paper did report that there was a slight improvement, you have to wonder after all that she went through, does she want to wake up and remember?


    Margaret

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    Muza dear

    I did not answer to your question the other day, I had hoped someone else would, since is´t´s an interesting question. So look below an except from your former post and please Muza dear: Why you think the WWII has something to do with this devilish evolving story of Herr Josef Fritzl:

    "Anyhow, moving on - I would love to hear your insights about that WWII comment. What do you think about that?".

    Please elaborate on this comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marval View Post
    Many years ago Fritzl applied for planning permission, to build in the basement. I wander what he told them it was for.

    Now they are asking questions.


    Margaret
    Ms. Margaret

    Herr Josef Fritzl, now we know he is educated as an ingeneer, asked the City Hall in Amstetten, the department for house building to rebuilt his house bigger on the backside, with bomb shelter below in the basement. Many Austrians did that in the latter of the Cold War.

    The pictures we have seen on the TV, show the corridor in the basement leading to the bed rooms was very narrow, less than 60 centimetres, which is 30 centimetres more narrow than an ordinary corridor.

    There are blue prints, and it´s been done by the book, though the two steel doors were not in the basement, when the authorities came to see, if he had done everything according to the masures, he had delivered.

    An ordinary basement would have windows for the light outside and to open once in a while, I would think.
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    Intet you gave me the just idea. Why don't authorities put him in a
    dungin where it's cold and dark until it would drive him absolutely
    insane where he would want to die. They did it on the island alchatraz
    with some of their prisoners who would pull something like that on an
    inmate or rape an inmate. They would put them in a cell called the
    black hole.
    judy tooley

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    I am glad you asked, Intet.

    Here is an article that I have recently ran into:

    "The question keeps echoing across Europe: why this crime and why in Austria?

    Newspapers in Europe point to World War II. Austria, they say, has always avoided examining its role, portraying itself for years as Adolf Hitler's first victim.

    Austria did not have a de-Nazification process like in Germany and did not like to confront the uncomfortable.

    Such sentiments are one thing coming from a journalist, but quite another when they are echoed by Natascha Kampusch, the Austrian woman who was held for eight years in a cellar in similar circumstances.

    "I think this exists world-wide but I think it's also a ramification of World War II," she said.

    "At the time of national socialism, the suppression of women was propagated and authoritarian education was very important."

    Others also say that Austria is particularly prone to low-level collusion and even corruption between police, judges and politicians at a regional level.

    It is perhaps another factor that explains why Fritzl's supposed 'adoptions' went ahead, why the 73-year-old's criminal record was ignored, and why Elisabeth's disappearance was never thoroughly investigated."
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    At 10:00 PM the Danish Radio announced that Interpol will bring the portrait pictures of well known wanted pedophiles on the international medias.

    According to a spokesman from the Interpol:

    "The Human Trafficking of young women and young mothers with daughters and sons for prostitution and sex slavery from third world countries, have become the worst crime against human beings, beside wars, in our time. The pedophiles travel world wide and share their experiences personally and by the internet. They meet in different countries at different locations, enter the chat sites on the internet especially for children and pretend to be a "friend". The pedophile invironment is international so we ask of every citizen in every city in every country to help us stop this victimising Human Trafficking to report to the police if you recognize the pictures of any of the pedophiles that will soon been shown in the media.".

    The Danish Police say they will do the same suggested by the Interpol and they hope every other country will do the same:

    "We need the coorporation from the public to stop this inhuman traffick".

    Do you guys remember the kidnapping of a little English girl in Portugal in 2007. She was on holidays with her parents, who would soon be investigated themselves for killing her. It´s more than a year ago and unfortunately the profile for this disappearence match excactly how Human Trafficking can be done on a individual child, spotted somewhere in any city in the world, never to be seen again.

    About 2 million children are sex slaves world wide according to the Interpol.
    Last edited by intet_at_tabe; May-07-2008 at 09:20.
    Best regards,
    intet_at_tabe

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