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Scales and Arpeggios

jvhldb

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I have several questions regarding scales and arpeggios.

Firstly, is it worth learning them? My teacher consider them unecessary unless they are required for exams.

Are there any free websites where I can get the pedal scales? I found the piano scales with fingering, but I can't find anything about pedal scales, except where it is mentioned that pedal scales are required for exams.
 

JONESEY

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In my personal view, it's good to learn them. They make for a great warm up and are invaluable in the greater understanding of keys and harmonies.

As I said though - just my view!!!
 

peterharris449

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I couldnt agree more with jonesey, so much organ music has scales and appegios both in the hands and feet, that in order to play them a good grounding is required. I always make pupils learn them, and spend between 5 and 10 minutes of most lessons, particularly in the early days of learning, going over them.
 

dll927

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There were, and surely still must be, publications that give pedal scales and the "footings" for them. When I took organ at San Jose State back in the 1950's, I had such a book, and trust me, the prof made me use it. Or try Franck's Final in B-flat. with a few transpositions, you'd hit everything there is!!
 

jvhldb

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There were, and surely still must be, publications that give pedal scales and the "footings" for them. When I took organ at San Jose State back in the 1950's, I had such a book, and trust me, the prof made me use it. Or try Franck's Final in B-flat. with a few transpositions, you'd hit everything there is!!

You wouldn't happend to know the name of the writer/composer/publicist/name of the book etc? The music shops say they can order anything:eek: for me if I can give them a name.
 

Corno Dolce

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Aloha Johan,

I wear black organmasters and have no problem in executing those pedal figurations. Funny how everyone fixates on Cameron's queer shoes. The shoes are basically accoutrements aka *fashion statements* which only reflect on the vanity of the organist. Heck, my former organ coach played the Demessieux C#-minor in stocking feet!

Cheerio,

CD :):):)
 

jvhldb

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I also wear black organ masters, but it will be years before I can play like that. It's just that around here, if you wear white you have to be a doctor or you get weird stares. Wearing white shoes can be detremental to your health and refused admittance to various establishments.
 

dll927

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You wouldn't happend to know the name of the writer/composer/publicist/name of the book etc? The music shops say they can order anything:eek: for me if I can give them a name.

As luck would have it, I still have that book. It is:

"A System of Technical Studies in Pedal Playing for the Organ" by L. Nilson. The publisher was G. Shirmer, Inc., New York. Now, are you ready for this?: The copyright is 1904, yes, 104 years ago!!

It says "Translated form the Swedish by J. E. Barkworth". But the exercises would appear to translate pretty readily.

I have no idea if the book is still in print. By some diligent internet searching, you may be able to find if it is available, even in pdf format. Good luck!!

UPDATE: I just went on the Schirmer website, and the book is STILL LISTED!! My copy says the price is $1.50, but the current one says $10.95. So I gather prices have changed more than pedalboards. Mine would date from about 1957!! Does that make me something of a packrat?
 
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jvhldb

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Thanks very much, I'll start trawlling the net for it.

No, your not a packrat, only a collector of antiques that bought them before they became valualbe.:)
 
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