sunwaiter
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"But it we approach this subject honestly, with a desire to see what nature is really telling us we arrive, inevitably, at the realisation that the creation of species really has happened. For we discover only order and more order. We discover that species are not some vague abstraction but are really living entities which are fixed in a fundamental way."
i understand that one can see our world this way, since it is, indeed such a sophisticated world, but to see it as a staight order-obeying one that was designed by a creator is, in my true subjective opinion, of course, only an interpretation, free of all absolute proof, though you have recalled me some of the elements that can be interpreted as such (like the laws of heredity). as i could see in the previous link i have quite randomly chosen and posted, lots of valid, non valid, peer-reviewed, not peer-reviewed, all kind of documents called facts, other called fakes fanciful or scientifically inaccurate, all sorts of different and often confusing things are said and displayed, from both sides, since, unfortunately, we're forced to distinguish these two sides. i know it's just an example, but i guess it means something.
as for myself, i still can't come to the conclusion, after my still young internet and library amateurish research, that for instance ken miller and his colleagues have built a lie around the famous ape/man genome issue. i know, i had promised not to mention this man too often...
another topic that can be connected to the ID/ET discussion is the animal species that have more or less recently disappeared, often because of man, which in your view was intelligently designed. it may sound like as an average forum poster thing but i often wonder why a intelligent designer would let some species disappear. because if all creatures have been designed and thus never been evolving, it seems it means that no other would ever appear, so this world will wind up empty of all animal form, after a certain time? i may be a little simplistic in the formulation, but i find this is a good question.
i understand that one can see our world this way, since it is, indeed such a sophisticated world, but to see it as a staight order-obeying one that was designed by a creator is, in my true subjective opinion, of course, only an interpretation, free of all absolute proof, though you have recalled me some of the elements that can be interpreted as such (like the laws of heredity). as i could see in the previous link i have quite randomly chosen and posted, lots of valid, non valid, peer-reviewed, not peer-reviewed, all kind of documents called facts, other called fakes fanciful or scientifically inaccurate, all sorts of different and often confusing things are said and displayed, from both sides, since, unfortunately, we're forced to distinguish these two sides. i know it's just an example, but i guess it means something.
as for myself, i still can't come to the conclusion, after my still young internet and library amateurish research, that for instance ken miller and his colleagues have built a lie around the famous ape/man genome issue. i know, i had promised not to mention this man too often...
another topic that can be connected to the ID/ET discussion is the animal species that have more or less recently disappeared, often because of man, which in your view was intelligently designed. it may sound like as an average forum poster thing but i often wonder why a intelligent designer would let some species disappear. because if all creatures have been designed and thus never been evolving, it seems it means that no other would ever appear, so this world will wind up empty of all animal form, after a certain time? i may be a little simplistic in the formulation, but i find this is a good question.