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Mat
Jan-10-2008, 20:43
"...and once the seventh day had passed, God suddenly awoke and in an exasperated fit of tumultuos and inspired revolution, he created John Coltrane..."
(found somewhere on the Internet)


Any thoughts?

NEB
Jan-10-2008, 20:55
I saw him live quite a few years back. stunning...

rojo
Jan-10-2008, 21:36
Giant Steps.

Need I say more? :grin:

intet_at_tabe
Jan-10-2008, 22:25
I saw him live quite a few years back. stunning...

Hi NEB

To be exact 41 years at least. John Coltrane passed away 07/17/1967 only 41 years old.

John Coltrane born in Hamlet, North Carolina 09/23/1926 (tenor and soprano saxophone, clarinet and alto horn). The alto horn and clarinet was only while at school.

John Coltrane had a significant natural talent on the tenor saxophone. He could play three tones at the same time in rapid passages and harmonicly exploring improvisations with his typical sharp sound. I am not kiddin´. This particular playing style was called "sheets of sound". Until the time when he joined up with Miles Davis in 1955, the jazz critics blamed JC for too long solos, but Miles Davis supported him to keep it up.

JC played with Miles Quintet from 1955-60 particularely on one of the most famous jazz albums at all in the past century "Kind of Blue" by Miles Davis released in 1959. When JC left MD Quintet in 1960 he had ended his long addiction to drugs and alcohol.

In the same period he spend with The Miles Davis Quintet he recorded in his own name on "Traneing In" Prestige Records 1957, "Blue Train" Blue Note Records 1957 and "Soultrane", Prestige Records 1958. On "Giant Steps" Atlantic Records 1959, he also played the soprano saxophone.

From 1960/61 he played with McCoy Tyner (piano), Jimmy Jarrison (bass) and Elvin Jones (drums) on albums like "My Favourite Thing", "Coltrane´s Sound" and "Coltrane Plays The Blues, all of them from Atlantic Records 1960. In 1961 he changed record label for Impulse and recorded with Eric Dolphy "Coltrane Live at the Village Vanguard " from 1961. Around 1965 JC developed a more free and experimenting "Ascension" with a quartet and brass section. Among the new musicians on this album was John Tchicai and later with Pharaoh Sanders.

Later he formed a group with Alice Coltrane (harp and piano) and Rashied Ali (drums), which played
classical indian and african music on "A Love Supreme" and "Meditations" and "OM" all in 1965.

John Coltrane has been credited for his significant way of playing and his tenor saxophone made school for the next generation of saxophonist.

Best regards,
intet-at-tabe

NEB
Jan-11-2008, 01:21
That would be right cos I was still a child at the time. My father (who was a musician as well) was a Jazz fan and used to take us kids to see all manner of players as soon as we were old enough.

intet_at_tabe
Jan-11-2008, 05:59
That would be right cos I was still a child at the time. My father (who was a musician as well) was a Jazz fan and used to take us kids to see all manner of players as soon as we were old enough.

Hi NEB.

Sounds like you had a great father, who wanted his children to watch the real thing. How did it influence you about jazz and other music styles? Do you play an instrument, if so which? Do you play jazz?

My father took me to any car show he could find, while he always spoke on, when we get a bit more money?

Best regards,
intet-at-tabe

NEB
Jan-11-2008, 11:08
Well yes- I play. Trombone and Keyboards and of course Organ. How did it influence me? well he also took us to the Royal Opera House, the Ballet, Classical orchestral concerts, Miliatary Band concerts et al.

I was classically trained (no college names) and went on to be an orchestral player, and Jazz keyboardist, so there was a profound influence. Now I'm a full time organist tho don't ask how I arrived there!

intet_at_tabe
Jan-11-2008, 11:17
Well yes- I play. Trombone and Keyboards and of course Organ. How did it influence me? well he also took us to the Royal Opera House, the Ballet, Classical orchestral concerts, Miliatary Band concerts et al.

I was classically trained (no college names) and went on to be an orchestral player, and Jazz keyboardist, so there was a profound influence. Now I'm a full time organist tho don't ask how I arrived there!

Hi NEB - back to you again.

I´ll still say you had a great father. It shows from your credentials as a talented musician in different connections and the variety of music styles introduced to you kids?

Have a great day,
intet-at-tabe

White Knight
Jan-01-2011, 00:17
Just listened to Trane and Monk playing together at Carnegie Hall at a gig recorded in 1957. It still sounds fresh and innovative some 53 years on. Now that's artistic genius of the highest order!

gord
Jan-01-2011, 02:33
steve, i bought the trane and monk at carnegie hall a couple of month ago, time to play it again. superb jazz from two jazz giants. gord

White Knight
Jan-01-2011, 02:41
:trp::tiphat:Gord, Happy New Year and enjoy! :cheers:

gord
May-16-2011, 22:16
my three favorite coltrane albums
1 blue train-bluenote
2coltranes sound-atlantic
3tranes blues-giants of jazz (prestige) gord

stu
Sep-27-2011, 21:25
Some favourite Coltrane.
Coltrane's Sound.
Traneing In - Good Bait-Bass Blues- from the Prestige sessions.
My Favourite Things.
Crescent.
Plays The Blues.
John Coltrane with Kenny Burrell.

gord
Sep-28-2011, 02:32
hi stu, some great john coltrane picks. more great coltrane albums
dakar-prestige
giant steps-atlantic
africa/brass-impulse
gord

smudgedude
Sep-28-2011, 06:58
I saw him live quite a few years back. stunning...


wow....that is incredible. i would have loved to have seen him life....a love supreme is one of the few albums that truly floored me when i listened to it.

teddy
Oct-07-2011, 23:15
I am slowly coming round to Coltrane, thanks to you guys. Still prefer Rollins but............

teddy

gord
Oct-08-2011, 01:48
welcome to the coltrane club teddy.once you discover this genius and his huge talent you will be rewarded by hours of listening pleasure.
there was a time when i didnt like him. now i am sorry i wasted all those years,fortunately i finally discovered just how good he actually
was. try his prestige and blue note recordings first,they are absolutely fantastic. gord

White Knight
Oct-08-2011, 02:08
@ Teddy, Rollins is no slouch either, by any means; I quite like his artistry as well.

stu
Oct-08-2011, 21:47
I had only listened to Trane with Miles Davis before getting my first Coltrane LP, 'My Favourite Things' on which he played soprano. I enjoyed that but left the LP on the shelf for nigh on four or five years, unplayed!!
One day I dug it back out and played it right through. On side two there is a 'sheets of sound' version of Summertime. I got hooked. I was ready! Within a few months or so there were six new Trane LP's on the shelf. I gained more through time on Cd and have transfered the LP's to CD.
And, Teddy, before Trane, Rollins rolled in and I went and got hooked on him!

gord
Oct-09-2011, 01:50
steve you are right, rollins is no slouch, but another giant of our music. gord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MpE3NJWu0g&feature=related

gord
Oct-10-2011, 19:23
there has been a little controversy on the subject of john coltrane and his music. of course i am among his biggest fans.in a recent post i stated that icould not understand
how some people just dont like his work and others are in awe of everything he recorded.then i thought i dont like his album a love supreme, how could ilike his jazz but dislike
an album many fans consider a masterpiece. so today i get out the headphones and crank up the volume and i am going to listen to this album and see if i can finally get it.
hopefully when i am finished i will love this record like all his other stuff.gord

gord
Oct-18-2011, 19:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGnY-axUH0U
could not resist putting this on. gord

teddy
Oct-18-2011, 21:06
Great playing, but does not do half as much for me as the last link. A bit too frentic for me

teddy

OLDUDE
Oct-18-2011, 22:22
how did I get here

White Knight
Oct-18-2011, 23:08
how did I get here

John, You must have taken a wrong turn into the Twilight Zone. :devil: :banghead:

gord
Oct-23-2011, 22:41
john,now you accidentally stumbled into the coltrane thread,we trane fans would like you to remain here.go to you tube and play in this order john coltrane 1 stardust 2 bye bye blackbird miles and trane 3 trane body and soul 4 tranes classic equinox (original).you will then become a coltrane fan, i guarantee it. gord

gord
Jan-21-2012, 23:48
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16643652

teddy
Jan-22-2012, 16:49
Thanks gord. Really interesting clip

teddy

OLDUDE
Jan-28-2012, 19:09
I have admitted to liking some early Coltrane stuff but see my post of jan 17th on the
"rating the jazz piece above" thread for my true leanings.

gord
Jan-30-2012, 02:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNkFCDPpN70

Mat
Feb-07-2012, 17:20
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16643652

That's very interesting. Thanks for posting, Gord.