Page 1 of 6 123456 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 82

Thread: The computer thread

  1. #1
    Chief assistant to the assistant chief JHC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Nu Zeln
    Posts
    4,963

    The computer thread

    How about a computer thread for help, advise and any thing computer related.

    For starters:
    At the moment I am using Vista and it has not really been a good experience previously I had XP which from memory was pretty much trouble free, I have heard that windows 8 also has a host of problems so I have a couple of questions:
    a. Have you any experience with Apple computers if so how would you rate them.
     
    b. If you had to change your computer would you stick with Windows if so which version would you go for.
    I don’t want a signature any more

  2. #2
    Vice Admiral Virtuoso Mat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    3,602
    I've had very little experience with Apple computers, and it wasn't pleasant. Maybe it was the matter of getting used to a new OS, for which I didn't have either time or patience. In case you decide to buy a Mac, here's a tutorial that might come in handy.

    As for Windows, I've used XP for a very long time now and I'm very satisfied with it. Never had any major problems, apart from a few little, fairly easily fixable, glitches. I don't think I experienced the infamous BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) more than five times during the time I've used the system. I've also had the pleasure to work on Windows 7. And indeed, it was a pleasure. The thing I like the most about it is how you can change almost every element of how it looks. I'm talking about changing the color of the taskbar or changing the order in which icons appear on it, ect. It's little things, I know, but they make using 7 much more comfortable.

    One thing I cannot understand about Windows products is the default browser - the Internet Explorer. It's absolutely dreadful. It's slow, it constantly freezes and it seems like every time I want to give it another chance it comes up with a new way to annoy me. I've used IE 6 through 9 - haven't noticed any improvement.

    But back to your question. If I had to give up XP, I would definitely switch to Windows 7.
    Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent.
    -- Victor Hugo


  3. #3
    Vice Admiral Virtuoso Dorsetmike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Poole Dorset UK
    Posts
    4,543
    Not a fan of Apple products, prices always seem to be considerably above similar performance Windows machines, I sometimes think they're a bit of a cult thing.

    Another vote for XP, I use Firefox as like Mat I'm not a fan of IE, I did once try to remove it, only to find that some things like parts of control panel would not work without it! I also at that time tried to remove Adobe Reader and using Foxit reader, it is impossible to completely remove Adobe reader, it leaves bits which can only be lost by doing a format and reinstalling Windoze but not Adobe, which is a bit drastic!

    I see reports that Microsloth are having to issue a major update to Win8 so one can choose a traditional screen and lose the touchscreen or retainte touchscreen for mobile apps.

    I've said this before but the main thing that gets up my nose is the continual "you have updates" I don't recall seeing any differences after updates they claim most are security issues, I'm sure a decent programmer should be able to write code that isn't so susceptible to security breaches.
    Last edited by Dorsetmike; Jun-07-2013 at 11:31.
    Cheers MIKE.

    How many roads must a man walk down ... ... before he admits he's lost?

  4. #4
    Duckmeister teddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    8,955
    I am still using XP on both machines and have very few problems. My daughter uses Windows 7 and that also seems relatively problem free. Vista was a nightmare from day one. Her university installed it which gave us problems until I installed a conversion program on our machines. I think 8 has been rushed out and I would avoid it at the moment. I would go for 7. I doubt you will be sorry. As far as hardware my cousin who lives in California and is a top computer bod swears by Apple with Microsoft software. Mind you the hardware is a lot cheaper out there. I.E can cause so problems but I need it for some of my programs. Why not use I.E. and Firefox and chose according to what you are doing. Alternatively a combination of carrier pigeon and an abacus will probably do the job.

    teddy
    Pining for the South of France

  5. #5
    Administrator Krummhorn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Tucson, Arizona
    Posts
    8,003
    I've never been a fan of MACs - but to their defense, they are excellent working machines - my late uncle used them in his sign business and swore by them.

    I grew up with DOS 3.2 (the dark ages) and graduated to Windows 3.0, 3.1, Win 98. I skipped over the Win2000 and Millennium versions and went to XP and stayed with that for 8 years with no problems at all. I found XP to be a very stable OS. I still use a laptop XP machine when I travel, and it works out just fine for me.

    My only reason to move to Windows 7 was when my XP machine (pressing 9 years of age) started giving me the BSOD treatment almost daily ... it was the mother board that was crapping out ... Fortunately, I had forseen the problems coming and bought an external 1.0 TB drive and moved all my files and applications there for a backup plan. Finally, the XP machine gave up the ghost ... repairing it was just not worth it and I don't like buying used stuff, so I ordered a new Dell Win 7 machine.

    (I did not even think about getting Vista - glad I bypassed that one, for sure)

    The period of adjustment from XP to Win7 has been difficult at times. Win 7 likes to store things where it wants, not where you think it should have gone, but I've got that almost figured out and can deal with it finally. There are still some files that I haven't been able to find though.

    Of course Win7 came with IE as its default browser ... that was the first thing I did to this new machine: installed Firefox and changed all my browser default settings to steer completely away from IE - but others swear by IE and other browsers. I retain an older version of IE for one site that I must visit twice a year - other than that I have zero use for IE and will stick with Firefox.

    I just started using Foxit and quite pleased with what it can do. For my virtual music scores (public domain organ music) I an actually add a note to the first page of the music indicating what date I last played the piece for a church service, and/or add registration comments. Pretty nifty thing ... gotta watch out when installing it to make sure it doesn't install all the Yahoo add-ons ... it did add a couple icons at the top of the page though, one of them being a live radio station streaming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
    . . . I've said this before but the main thing that gets up my nose is the continual "you have updates" I don't recall seeing any differences after updates they claim most are security issues, I'm sure a decent programmer should be able to write code that isn't so susceptible to security breaches.
    I hear you on that ... but many of those changes cannot be foreseen in advance ... the hackers and spammers are always creating new ways to cause trouble, and it seems each week they come up with something new that the programmers haven't seen before and then need to write new code to stop/correct it. Sad to say, but it's always going to be like that Mike; there is no 'crystal ball' to determine what the hackers are going to try next.

    Kh ♫

  6. #6
    Chief assistant to the assistant chief JHC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Nu Zeln
    Posts
    4,963
    I always thought that Apple (Mac) were known for their simplicity of use and stability but you paid a higher price for this, why oh why can't MS get it right?????
    I don’t want a signature any more

  7. #7
    Duckmeister teddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    8,955
    The Microsoft system was almost a steal from the old Mac system, which was more user friendly. It just shows how effective marketing can be. I believe the Mac hardware is good but it depends on the price. Acer currently have a good reputation being well regarded by WHICH MAGAZINE.

    teddy
    Pining for the South of France

  8. #8
    Vice Admiral Virtuoso Dorsetmike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Poole Dorset UK
    Posts
    4,543
    That makes a change, Acer have always been cr@p especially their laptops.
    Cheers MIKE.

    How many roads must a man walk down ... ... before he admits he's lost?

  9. #9
    Administrator Krummhorn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Tucson, Arizona
    Posts
    8,003
    Every "Acer" (lap or desk model) I have gotten across my test table at the charity shop is a piece of junk ... same goes for the Sony Vaio ... HP isn't much better. Strange though, never had a MAC donated ... nor a Linux system. No wait, we once got 15 MAC CRT's ... those with the apple emblem on the back, and the clear plastic sides so we could see all the electrons floating around I suppose.

    I used a Linux system at work ... acted and ran a lot like MAC's ... funny keys, strange pull down menu's, etc.

    What do you all have for memory and storage these days. When I got my Win 7 machine I ordered it with 8 GB Ram, and it came with 650 GB drive. My wife's Win 7 machine (6 months later) came with 1.0 TB as standard drive. I have an external 1.0 TB (WD) attached and a WD Passport 360 GB drive that goes with me when I travel - has my virtual music library on it.

    Kh ♫

  10. #10
    Vice Admiral Virtuoso Dorsetmike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Poole Dorset UK
    Posts
    4,543
    I run 2 almost Identical Dual core Gateway PCs, (nearly 6 years old) only differences being RAM, 4Gb and 2Gb, both have 180Gb hard discs partitioned as 3x 60Gb. One machine mainly for Music apps and files, the other for Photo apps, email and internet. One 23" Samsung monitor, keyboard and mouse switchable between machines, the music machine spends most of it's time streaming Last.fm.
    Last edited by Dorsetmike; Jun-08-2013 at 19:55.
    Cheers MIKE.

    How many roads must a man walk down ... ... before he admits he's lost?

  11. #11
    Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler Corno Dolce's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Moscow, Russia
    Posts
    10,538
    And I generally use, for the moment at least, a simple Macbook Air with 8 GB ram and 512 GB flash storage. An IBM machine from 1980 got me started and then I switched to MAC in 2005 and don't care to return to a prior platform.
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

  12. #12
    Vice Admiral Virtuoso Mat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    3,602
    My current machine runs on 4 GB of RAM and a (at least six year old) 120 GB WD drive. I use WD only for the OS, the software/apps and some other files that I need daily. All my other files are stored on a 500 GB external drive. I also have a spare 250 GB drive but I'm not using it at the moment. Well, actually this is where I keep all the back-ups, but it's just not hooked up to my PC.
    Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent.
    -- Victor Hugo


  13. #13
    Chief assistant to the assistant chief JHC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Nu Zeln
    Posts
    4,963
    I have DELL desk top with 4GB ram and 500GB HD but I have a Seagate ext HD 500GB for back up and storage the only draw back is that I am running Vista, I like the Dell as it has one feature that has been a god send on more than one occasion and that is (DELL restore) unlike MS restore it actually restores the computer to its original condition and hence gets rid of any errors and bugs that MS can't remove the only thing is to make sure you have saved all programs and files as they will have to be re installed.
    I also have a HP lap top with a massive 2GB ram and 30GB HD this has XP installed but only 10GB free and I don't seem able to get any more do you think it would be worth deleting XP and re installing I do have the original CD some where.
    I don’t want a signature any more

  14. #14
    Vice Admiral Virtuoso Dorsetmike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Poole Dorset UK
    Posts
    4,543
    If you're thinking of doing a reinstall on the laptop, I'd be inclined to swap out the hard drive, Amazon UK price for 320Gb is under £40 and if you're opening it up add another 2Gb Ram, keep XP, that set up should be adequate for most things.
    Cheers MIKE.

    How many roads must a man walk down ... ... before he admits he's lost?

  15. #15
    Chief assistant to the assistant chief JHC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Nu Zeln
    Posts
    4,963
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
    If you're thinking of doing a reinstall on the laptop, I'd be inclined to swap out the hard drive, Amazon UK price for 320Gb is under £40 and if you're opening it up add another 2Gb Ram, keep XP, that set up should be adequate for most things.
    That would be the way to go Mike but the thing is about 10 years old not really worth it IMO
    I don’t want a signature any more

Page 1 of 6 123456 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Computer games
    By methodistgirl in forum Community Center and Chat Forum
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: May-31-2009, 00:02
  2. Computer Problems
    By methodistgirl in forum Community Center and Chat Forum
    Replies: 36
    Last Post: May-06-2008, 07:38
  3. What Computer OS Do You Use?
    By Krummhorn in forum Science & Technology Forum
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: Dec-06-2007, 16:11
  4. Køb af computer!
    By Rune Vejby in forum Debatforum: Åben Diskussion (Danish)
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: Aug-20-2005, 18:52

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •