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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Amazing that the politicians don't use it for their emails teddy
    Maybe Hillary did ...

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    I expect the clever ones do, if there is such a thing

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    Just come across an important point while upgrading my daughters laptop to 10. You must do all the updates first otherwise it takes forever. Just a small point but important

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    Seems that is the norm for anything like this ... the core program (original release) has to install then all the updates that have occurred along the way.

    Had to do all these when I had to completely restore my Win 7 OS. The original release was from 2010. Fortunately it was all covered under my Dell warranty.
    Seemed like the updates took like forever to get done.

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    I read on another forum that you can't turn off automatic updates in Win 10 home edition, but you can in Win 10 Pro. So in some respects it's as though Microsloth has control of your computer; and you wonder why some of us are apprehensive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krummhorn View Post
    Seems that is the norm for anything like this ... the core program (original release) has to install then all the updates that have occurred along the way.

    Had to do all these when I had to completely restore my Win 7 OS. The original release was from 2010. Fortunately it was all covered under my Dell warranty.
    Seemed like the updates took like forever to get done.
    The same with Vista, on several occasions I have had to resort to a full DELL restore to fix problems that I could not fix myself, this restores the PC to the condition it was in when purchased, I just leave it switched on until all updates are current about a day then have to reload all my programs another day at least but it sure fixes things, of course you have to make sure you have done a back up of the important stuff.
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    Well, that sums up Vista Colin. Incidentally what's the advantage of switching off automatic updates?

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    My problem stemmed not from a Win 7 update, but from a program that I installed (big mistake later on) which was supposed to improve performance and remove all the dead wood files, etc. What it did was reprogram my entire Win 7 Pro machine into thinking it was Win Vista - altered ALL of my drivers to Vista format so that printer and scanner, webcam, and all my saved software programs would no longer run. That software also changed my OS from 64 bit to 32 bit.

    I would delete the drivers and try to re-install the proper Win 7 pro drivers, but the OS kept flashing up a message "you do not have the permission" ... Now wait a dog gone minute - and it got worse from that point forward.

    I (eventually) received a full refund for that software ... and the only way to get things operational again was to completely reformat my machine, which Dell Support did online, and then re-install everything. Thankful now for having the Dell warranty .

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddy View Post
    Well, that sums up Vista Colin. Incidentally what's the advantage of switching off automatic updates?

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    I never switch off auto updates teddy, did you run Vista ?

    @ Lars does your DELL have the "DELL restore" option ?
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    I switch off auto updates on this PC because for some reason this PC downloads 8 updates every time I power down (even if I power down within minutes of a previous power down). The exceptions to 8 updates are whenever there are new updates (which I can tell from my laptop) I turn updates back on when I know there are new updates; this PC will then download 8 plus any new ones, so I only download updates on this machine when I know there are new ones.
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    Cheers MIKE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
    I switch off auto updates .................................... I turn updates back on when I know there are new updates; this PC will then download 8 plus any new ones, so I only download updates on this machine when I know there are new ones.
    So if there ain't any new updates they don't get downloaded, Mike that is one intelligent PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    . . .@ Lars does your DELL have the "DELL restore" option ?
    It probably does, but I was online with Dell tech support and they were able to do all the restoration remotely after I allowed permission to access my drive (temporarily) form an outside source.


    The more I read about Win10 the less I like it ... apparently with the Win 10 Home edition there are fewer options for control of updates, etc. Then MS wants everyone to use their new browser Edge and discourages other browsers by making Edge the default one automatically.

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    I have no problems using IE as my browser, it does not default to Edge, which I have not got my head around. And no Colin, I have never used Vista but a few years ago when my daughter was attending Canterbury Uni they installed Vista throughout the campus and it was a disaster. Nobody seemed to get on with it, there where compatibility problems with XP and as soon as they could they dumped it. An expensive mistake.

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    It seems we all have different problems, the things that I blamed Vista for are the fault of IE or so it seems because they have vanished since using Opera, I am tempted to try Safari but will stay away from Chrome.
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    And now, bad news for Win 7 and Win 8 users: apparently, without any of us knowing it, Microsoft slipped in a couple of updates that included 'tracking' methods, similar to what is featured in Win 10. I blast Microsoft for even thinking of doing this - all in the name of getting user feedback on Windows products.

    There were/are several updates:
    • KB 3022456 installed DiagTrack; aka CEIP
    • KB 3068708 same as KB 3022456 but with updates;
    • KB 3075249
    • KB 3080149


    One can uninstall any of the above KB updates by going to your
    Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features menu and right clicking the update. I don't know what other things might be affected if doing so. My Win 7 Pro machine only had the KB 3022456 installed.

    One can disable DiagTrack by going to any of the MS Office products (Excel, Word, Powerpoint, etc) and change the option to not be tracked:

    Open the MS Office program, go to Options >> Trust Center (click on that) >> Privacy Options. Uncheck the box next to "Sign up for the Customer Experience Improvement Program". Doing so will change that selection for all of your MS Office applications.

    Disable "diagtrackrunner.exe" (if it is there) from running processes in the Task Manager window.

    To stop future auto downloading of this "gotcha" from MS, you can change the way you receive/install updates from "auto" to "ask me every time" and select only those that you want/need.

    Source:
    Forbes Tech article;
    CNET tech advice.

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