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    Anyone know what the top speed of that Rolls was?

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    Speed limits are working in France. The French rarely exceed the maximum speed limit on motorways (130 kph / 81 mph) The English, Dutch and Belgians do but rarely the French. They have been frightened into submission by the dreaded (and often mythical) speed camera. The worst drivers at the moment seem to be the Belgians. Speeding, often tailgating and erratic, they have taken over from the French as number one nuisance.

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    The main problem with "speed limits" here is that lots of idiots think that "speed limit" is the minimum speed that everyone should go, whereas it is the posted maximum for the road or conditions in the area.

    We do have speed cameras set up around the city ... and they are setup for 11 MPH over the posted limit ... but the idiots, the same ones who believe that 40 means minimum, are the ones who slow down to 25 going through a 40 MPH limited area with a camera.

    I personally like the cameras ... a road I frequent has one where the posted limit is 40 - I go 49 through the camera coverage area and it does nothing (lights will flash if you exceed the 11 mph allowance.

    We also have "red light cameras" that capture four photographs of violators: 1) photo of the driver through the windshield, 2) photo from above intersection showing the violating car passing through the "red" lighted intersection, 3) side view of the violators car, and 4) photo of the rear license plate.

    I only know this from a friend who got caught ... I haven't had a speeding or moving violation ticket since I was 17 years old.

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    Thinking about minimum speed limits I seem to remember that when the M1 was first used it had a min speed. this is really a good idea as it keeps all the slow old dudes in weeny cars and things out of the way.
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    Yes I remember minimum speed limits but they have disappeared. Having said that people do occasionally get booked for driving too slowly. The last case I can remember was an elderly lady on a motorway doing 18 MPH. They still use a minimum limit on French Motorways which if I remember correctly is 40 MPH in the overtaking lane on level ground in good weather.

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    How about the Autobahn that has a top limit in places does it have a minimum?
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    I believe that sections of the Autobahn are still unrestricted but I don't know about minimums. I was watching a program about American highways where an Enlish motorist was pulled over because he was driving 15 MPH below the speed limit which was deemed inappropriate. Maybe Steve would have some information regarding speed limits in America.

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    In the US, one can get a ticket for going the speed limit ... especially if the conditions warrant slower driving because of weather or road conditions.

    When I was on travel last year driving cross country and back, I did go through some states that posted minimum speeds and maximum speeds on the same sign.
    Law enforcement usually gives some tolerance on the limits, except in Oklahoma's Toll Roads ... the speed limit is posted along with the words Zero Tolerance!

    When we were driving in the UK, I thought I remember reading that they allowed 10% tolerance before citing ... of course, depending on weather and road conditions.

    I can remember back to 1992 when on a choir tour, our bus was on the Autobahn outside of Frankfurt ... a little black dot could be seen to the rear, and 5 seconds later it zoomed past (our tour bus had a rear compartment that faced backwards below the upper deck seating). But when getting near the major cities, the Autobahn posted limit was 80 kmh, and everybody slowed to exactly that speed ... there were cameras on all the bridges going over the Autobahn ... we were told the fine (in 1992) for speeding was equivalent to $1200 US ... and they got their picture published in all the papers.

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    It must be difficult driving in the states Lars. So many variations depending on which state you are in. At least we have only one set of rules over here. It has just been announced that on the spot fines will be introduced for tailgating and lane hogging. At last some of the foreigners will be fined as well. Its about time they did the same for speeding like they do in France. As long as it doesn't affect me.

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    We have one set of rules but they are applied according to who you are, eg, on the news a joker arrested for driving a converted (stolen) car he did not have a drivers license it was taken off him several years ago he had something like NZ$30-40.000 in unpaid fines stretching back several years he was ordered to pay the fines @ so much a week, fat chance as he was unemployed. now me, I would have sent him straight to prison. oh I forgot to mention he was not a white middle class male.........I say no more. grrrrrr
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    Yes, we have "laws" like that over here Colin.

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    What I was getting at is, someone like me obeys the rules but occasionally strays in my case I exceed the speed limit usually to pass some truck belching thick smoke or to get past a vehicle that is just toooo slow, I get caught and a ticket, I am mortified and apologise profusely and pay my fine, these other low life just laugh it off and carry on as if nothing had happened and the worse thing is the system lets them get away with it.
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    Colin. Recently a £30,000 caravan was stolen from an elderly couple just reaching retirement age. The police eventually found it with gypsy's living in it. He produced a scruffy piece of paper saying he had bought it off a man in a pub for £300. The police let him keep it and told the owners that it was a civil matter and they would have to take him to court. The papers got hold of the story and all hell broke lose. The police then backtracked and went to find the gypsy, but he had disappeared. So there you are. Go and steal a £30,000 car and when challenged by the police show them a scruffy piece of paper saying you bought it. Think it would work? apparently it will if you are a gypsy, but I wouldn't try it myself

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    I can't help thinking these kind of jokers would not be walking the streets in America.
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    Damn right Colin. A .44 slug soles a lot of problems, and cheaply.

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