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    Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler Corno Dolce's Avatar
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    Goodbye America, wherever you are...

    Through my life I have gotten to know some great Americans as personal friends and I have very close contact with them despite Congress, Senate, and Administration trying to screw everything up.

    Now with Obama trumpeting about how the sanctions have hurt Russia, my Russian compatriots and I understand that Washington is off its meds. The Russian people lived through a 73 year epoch of Radical Evil and utter privation. No sanctions that America and Europe employ can hurt Russia. I thank God for Putin's leadership that is fostering a very healthy and growing middle-class from Vladivostok to Kaliningrad, the people who voted for Putin in the first place. The middle-class has all but disappeared in America. The number of poor people in America is at 66 million, up from 45 million during the Bush years. Congrats America, you got the leader you deserved! America, I leave you now with a quote by Samuel Adams:



    Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say "what should be the reward of such sacrifices?" Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!
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    Americans also have concerns about our government. In a land of liberty it is not always clear what we can do about it. More often we vote against someone rather than for someone. In Denmark do you feel you are voting for good choices much of the time?
    Americans also wonder why NATO can't help one of their neighbors without waiting to hear what our government has to say about that. I learned long ago to admire the Russian passion for art and science. It seems they also have a difficult time finding politicians that selflessly respect their higher aspirations for the greater good.
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    As bad as America may seem to us and to all others, it still remains my choice of residence over all other countries, except maybe for Denmark where my roots are ... well, my family roots.

    We have, as a country, many many faults ... I'm certain that most other countries also have their own internal faults ... there are still starving people inside Russia as well as America, the UK, and many others.

    I tend to remain neutral as far as politics go - I'm registered as an Independent here in the US for voting purposes - I refuse to be associated with either major political party as all they do is sling mud at each other; instead of promoting what they are going to to for their country they persist in only bad mouthing the competitor and saying how bad that person is .. etc etc, ad nauseum. I never vote for any incumbent. I also believe that there should be term limits for Congress just as there are for the office of president.

    But that's me ... and only my opinion. People will choose to live wherever on earth life takes them. I'm happy that CD had found solace and comfort within Russia ... I think he's certainly found his musical niche there as well. I have no disrespect for him leaving my country ... that is his will, and his alone, and I am glad that he has found his "home".

    I've found that the US, despite all its problems, is the best place for me to call "home".

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    If you want a totally gutless country try England, I admire France in that they always do what is best for the French, and sod everyone else. We could do with someone here who puts the English first. Our only hope at the moment is UKIP.

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    As far as the Ukraine goes they should sort it out themselves both Russia and the USA keep out of it, now Isis which is a disgusting group of misfits should be the target for the rest of the world to unite against, but that is just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    As far as the Ukraine goes they should sort it out themselves both Russia and the USA keep out of it . . .
    I agree with you wholeheartedly, Colin. The US continues to stick its nose into other people's business all to often. Would the Ukraine ever help the US in a time of need? Probably not ... but that's just my opinion.

    We have enough of our own problems, a failing infrastructure, crumbling roads, bridges, freeways (motorways), starving and the homeless in the US. But when Congress convenes, there is never "any money" for those things, but there are billions and billions available for sticking our noses into other things that will not help any situation within our own country.

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    An old saying "Charity begins at home" not quite the same thing but you know what I mean.
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    We are giving billions away to countries who are better off than us but cutting our armed services and have some of the worst roads in Europe???????????????????????????????????????????? ???
    Still, I expect the will increase road tax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Our state legislature 'stole' funds from the HURF fund (highway user revenue fund) in order to balance the states budget in other areas. Those monies were to be used solely for road repair in the state of Arizona.

    There is talk about raising the taxes on gasoline at local, county and state levels. I am concerned that we will only be filling to coffers of the state general fund instead of ear marking those funds for what they were intended, which would be a violation of state law.

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    This has been happening here for many years Lars. If all the money raised for road tax, fuel tax car tax and insurance for car btax was used for the roads they would be gold plated. The motorist is just a cash cow.

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    Look at all the money you will save when the Scots go it alone
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    There's a thread on a UK photo forum re the Scottish referendum currently at 67 pages and 1321 posts! Started in February.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Watt View Post

    That's why the next war America starts will be for the water.
    Everyone knows the money is just some fast electrical flash.
    Watt currency will The Bank of Scotland be using John?
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    On what charge were you arrested John?
    We have just had our general election and the government that sold half of our assets, widened the rich to poor gap, sold land and farms to China, allowed the recently privatised power companies to charges as they saw fit etc Yes they have been re-elected by a very strong majority and now are to take the tea breaks away from workers and ensure that union agreements with companies do not have to be honored if it is detrimental to the company.

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    Locally, a thrift/charity shop manager tried (unsuccessfully) to use federal standards for breaks and lunches, telling the volunteers that they were not to take a break until after working 5 hours. Most of the volunteers are elderly ... 70+ in age, and most don't have the capacity of Hoover Dam to hold off runoff from the streams above, if you get my drift.

    After doing that, some volunteers quit and said goodbye. So, the paid manager, who is entitled to breaks and lunches per federal laws, no longer can take those because of lack of volunteer staff. Moral of the story: Don't piss off the volunteers ...


    Now then, if those people were paid for their work, that is another matter entirely.

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